[cssm] DDOR Scan Pattern format proposal
Barkley, Erik J (US 3970)
erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov
Thu Jul 16 21:32:47 UTC 2020
Hello Martin (and my apologies for the earlier incorrect spelling),
The DDOR WG Chair (Jim Border) and I have had an exchange with regard to the proposed scan pattern for inclusion in the SMURF. Attached please find a proposed scan pattern format -- a sample XML instance document and a pictorial representation. This is largely based on the pattern you have proposed.
The differences, elaborated as comments in the XML instance document, are:
1. Removal of the service indication as the DDOR service would already be indicated in the SMURF
2. Removal of the account of scan targets as each target has an ordinal number assigned to it so it is quite trivial to determine the number of targets if that is needed (and less error-prone)
3. addition of a reference to the carrier configuration profile for the spacecraft(s) participating in the DDOR observation (in turn this will indicate the frequency band as well as provide information for the DOR tones from the spacecraft(s))
4. The absolute start time for the scan pattern has been added -- this will help to verify that the scan pattern time fits with the set of activities scheduled
5. a slew time that can be stated for each target rather than a uniform slew time - this may allow for optimization such that a DDOR measurement that could not be achieved via fixed slew times can be achieved if the overall amount of time spent slewing is reduced (of course this would be subject to negotiation, but the purpose here is to allow for expression of the information and not to specify behavior)
My sense is that we are close to a very good workable format. I look forward to your comments.
Best regards,
-Erik
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Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [cssm] Fw: DDOR configuration template
Hello
I will join late the telecon today. I should be able to make it for the DDOR item in your agenda at 17H55 CET.
I have inserted my answer in colour in your text.
We have been practicing DDOR support for years, internal ESA and cross agency support. implementation. We have a unique sequence of event template, we use standardise file naming convention for the raw data. It is simple and it works. I am reluctant to the idea of increasing complexity unless their is a benefit.
I see the DOR tones on/off times as part of the event sequence (which references the configuration profile). Also, from local conversation, it appears that name of the raw observation files matters for processing by the correlators. That could also go in the configuration profile.
- The time pattern is changing frequently for DDOR. If you want to have an event sequence for each, you will have to create one for nearly each new support. It may be nice at conceptual level, but is a burden in operation. I recommend the approach to have a single DDOR sequence, with durations as parameters.
- The raw observation file name is not part of the request in the recommended practice CCSDS 506.0-M-2. File name of navigation product matters for processing, but that's covered in the relevant standard books. Does it really make sense to leave freedom to the user to select the file name of the result in a booking request ? The same logic would then applies to all navigation product. Do you consider leaving a file name entry for ranging, Doppler, meteo and so on... .
I see the scan pattern as being part of the SMURF -- a question I have here is whether or not the scan pattern can be template-a-sized such that it is always referred to by some sort of identifier. My sense from the DSN side is that this is not the case as the quasar(s) being utilized very depending upon the mission trajectory etc. I think it will be interesting to discuss further on this at the teleconference tomorrow if you're available.
- The Quasars to be used change for each DDOR request. In our implementation the Quasar name are anonymized to Q1/Q2/Q3, depending of how many Quasar are requested in a given support. It is up to the requester to provide the orbital predicts of the real Quasar under the relevant code name.
Regards
________________________________________
MarCin UNAL :)
Ground Operation Manager
Ground Facilities Ops HSO - ONO
H-376
ESOC
Robert-Bosch Strasse 5
64 293 Darmstadt
Germany
Tel +49 6151 90 2959
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From: "Barkley, Erik J (US 3970)" <erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov>>
To: "EXTERNAL-Unal, Martin P (9110-Affiliate)" <Martin.Unal at esa.int<mailto:Martin.Unal at esa.int>>
Cc: "CCSDS Service Mgmt WG" <smwg at mailman.ccsds.org<mailto:smwg at mailman.ccsds.org>>
Date: 17/06/2020 00:02
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [cssm] Fw: DDOR configuration template
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Hello Marcin,
Here are some quick responses as to how I think this likely fits within the service management.
I see the DOR tones as being part of the configuration profile.
I see the DOR tones on/off times as part of the event sequence (which references the configuration profile). Also, from local conversation, it appears that name of the raw observation files matters for processing by the correlators. That could also go in the configuration profile.
I see the scan pattern as being part of the SMURF -- a question I have here is whether or not the scan pattern can be template-a-sized such that it is always referred to by some sort of identifier. My sense from the DSN side is that this is not the case as the quasar(s) being utilized very depending upon the mission trajectory etc. I think it will be interesting to discuss further on this at the teleconference tomorrow if you're available.
Best regards,
-Erik
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [cssm] Fw: DDOR configuration template
Hello
Here is a version 2 based on yesterday telecon discussion.
I have changed the configuration item names to ddor_configuration and spacecraft_configuration.
<configuration_profile service="deltaDor">
<!-- DDOR configuration element defines which type of DDOR configurarion shall be used to configure the ground station -->
<!-- This can be used to select which type of tones to be used, how many DL band,...-->
<!-- The attribute and their value will probably be provider specific -->
<ddor_configuration name="DDOR1"/>
<!-- The spacecraft_configuration can be used to convey information relevant for the station configuration on a per DL basis (if needed)-->
<!-- To be open to future multi band DDOR, It is suggest to have an dlIndex-->
<!-- The attribute and their value will probably be provider specific -->
<spacecraft_configuration dlIndex="1" band="Xband" transmitter="1"/>
The main part to agree with the DDOR team concern the DDOR parameter. They are not really concerned by the configuration aspect. This is more an issue between the flight control team and the provider.
I am still not sure where you want to have it in a SMURF request.
Will it be in provider specific parameter ? In the configuration profile (902x05-Simple-conf-profile-Mission-Agrt) ?
Regards
________________________________________
Martin UNAL
Ground Operation Manager
Ground Facilities Ops HSO - ONO
H-376
ESOC
Robert-Bosch Strasse 5
64 293 Darmstadt
Germany
Tel +49 6151 90 2959
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