[Moims-dai] PMBOK guide and the ICF doc

[Robert R Downs]

I believe that we would need to paraphrase if we are to bring in 
definitions from PMBOK.

Thanks,

Bob

On 5/9/2016 4:41 PM, David Giaretta wrote:
> I was not familiar with PMBOK, and the document is not free, which restricts
> familiarity.
>
> It seems to me we can refer to the PMBOK but we will have to paraphrase
> various concepts to capture the sense of it. It is the logic that matters.
> That would also be necessary for copyright reasons. I guess we may need to
> use some PMBOK definitions - can we do that or do we need to paraphrase?
>
> ..David
>
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> Looks promising to me.  Do you think the rest of the PMBOK would resonate
> with the communities we're familiar with?  Bob probably has a view on this.
>
> cheers-
> Don
>
> On May 9, 2016, at 10:03 AM, David Giaretta <david at giaretta.org> wrote:
>
>> Now the wedding is out of the way, I managed to buy a printed copy of the
> PMBOK 5th edition - which I believe is the latest version.
>>   
>> The way it describes the process groups is very interesting. The way I
> read it the intention seems very similar to my understanding of what we are
> talking about but the way it is explained is much clearer. For example, the
> introduction to process groups says:
>> "The following sections identify and describe 5 project management process
> groups required for any project. These 5 process groups have clear
> dependencies and are typically performed in each project and highly interact
> with one another. These 5 process groups are independent of application
> areas or industry focus. Individual process groups and individual processes
> are often iterated prior to completing the project and can have interactions
> within a process group and among process groups. The nature of these
> interactions varies from project to project and may or may not be performed
> in a particular order."
>> The 5 groups are
>> -          Initiating
>> -          Planning
>> -          Executing
>> -          Closing
>> -          Monitoring and controlling
>>   
>>   
>> The Monitoring and controlling is an overarching activity - see the
> attachment.  The first 4 stages align very well - it depends how much we
> want to stress _exploit_ and _disposition_. Monitoring and controlling could
> fit very well as an overarching activity to make sure the appropriate
> "Additional Information" is captured.
>>   
>> Interestingly later in that section there is a table with the process
> groups along the top and a number of "knowledge areas" down the side - see
> attachment. In many of the cells there are more specific bullet points which
> point to sections later in the book. The majority of the book is taken up
> expanding each of those cells.
>>   
>> I see a lot of similarity of approach with ours and it would be relatively
> straightforward to make the adjustment to align our document with the PMBOK
> approach.
>>   
>> Regards
>>   
>> ..David
>>
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