[Css-csts] RE: deprecated production-status parameter?

Wed Sep 12 10:39:12 EDT 2012

Yves,
The production status is not the status of the transfer service itself, but of the production processes that must be operational in order for the transfer service to properly generate or process the data that is transferred by the transfer service instance. My suggested definition is:

"The production status is the aggregate status of the production processes that generate or process the data that is transferred by the transfer service instance."

Best regards,
John

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From: Yves.Doat at esa.int [mailto:Yves.Doat at esa.int] 
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Subject: Re: [Css-csts] RE: deprecated production-status parameter?

Dear John,

I changed the title of section C6.2 as proposed.

Regarding Service Production definition I would propose:
"The service production status is the status of the service during implementation of its functionality."

Please let me know if you agree or if you would have an alternative definition?

Best regards
Yves

  From:       "John Pietras" <john.pietras at gst.com>                                                                                

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Yves,
I agree with your proposal, with one additional proposal – that production status have initial caps (Production Status) to indicate its “special term”
status. We have used this approach elsewhere in the CSTS SF (some cases that come immediately to mind are Transfer Buffer and Release Timer). (Perhaps it would also be useful to add it to the Additional Definitions in
section1.6.1.4.)

Best regards,
John

Ps – I believe that the title of section C6.2 should be “Agencies Functionalities” , not “Agencies Functionalities Agreement”

From: Yves.Doat at esa.int [mailto:Yves.Doat at esa.int]
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 4:10 AM
To: John Pietras
Cc: css-csts at mailman.ccsds.org
Subject: RE: deprecated production-status parameter?

Dear John,
You are right, in the Return Framework, the parameter "production-status" doe not exist in the ASN.1. Considering that the forward procedures are coming and will re-introduce the parameter, I would appreciate to limit the impact in the book.

I therefore propose to change the font from "identifier" to "normal"
throughout the document. Having changed the font implies that the parameter "production-status" referred in the document is not defined in ASN.1.
The events related to the various values of the production status:
productionConfigured, productionInterrupted, productionHalted and productionOperational remain valid and are still defined in sections
3.10.2.2.3 (NOTIFY operation) and in C7 (Object Identifiers of the events).

Please let me know if you would agree to this minimum change.

Best regards
Yves

 From:        "John Pietras" <john.pietras at gst.com>                          

 To:          <Yves.Doat at esa.int>                                            

 Cc:          <css-csts at mailman.ccsds.org>                                   

 Date:        08/08/2012 16:08                                               

 Subject:     RE: deprecated production-status parameter?                    

Yves,
My comment about the embedded note “2012 not valid anymore” applied to the June draft of the CSTS FW – it (and the associated ASN.1 ProductionStatus type definition) have been deleted from the July version. However, my comments about references to the production-status parameter throughout the book are still valid.

Best regards,
John

From: John Pietras
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 4:58 PM
To: Yves.Doat at esa.int
Cc: CCSDS_CSTSWG (css-csts at mailman.ccsds.org)
Subject: deprecated production-status parameter?

Yves,
There are a number of citations of and references to the production-status parameter, where “production-status” has the courier font that indicates that it is a formal parameter of the Framework. For example, section 2.2.10.2
states:
“The status of the service production resource is reported by means of the production-status parameter and is made available to all service instances accessing the same production resource.  The CSTS Specification Framework defines the permissible values of production-status and the transitions between these values in abstract terms; these values may be refined by service specifications based on the Framework.  Service specifications may also define substates for one or more of the production-status values where appropriate.”

However, when I went and actually looked for productionStatus in the ASN.1, I found that D3.3, Cross Support Transfer Service —COMMON TYPES, exports ProductionStatus but that the type itself now has the annotation “201206 Not valid anymore”.

If indeed production-status is now not a formal parameter type then I think it should be cleaned up in the Framework to remove those statemetns that say that it is. However, I don’t thinkn that it is important enough to delay
Red-2 publication just for that. This comment can be treated as the first RID against Red-2.

Best regards,
John

John Pietras
GST, Inc.
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