[CMC] Question re: recent CMC voting

Eduardo W. Bergamini e.w.bergamini@uol.com.br
Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:45:15 -0200


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Adrian,


I also did not understand your e-mails.

The absence of more votes in all the recent CMC  MC-EXX-YYs related =
polls is directly related to the arguments pointed by Allan. I, myself, =
was one that pointed to Neil, beginning December, the need for issuing  =
"reminding" e-messages, in  addition to the new (hopefully, more =
efficient) electronic polling scheme that was recently inaugurated in =
the newly structured CCSDS  site. Thanks to Neil's attention, since =
then, it has been done and, very possibly, it already reflected on =
higher voting rates in relation to current set of issues we are =
discussing over.

The consensus issue. The pertinent excerpt of our CCSDS A00.0-Y-9 =
Procedures Manual, as of Nov. 2003, reads:=20


5 OPERATIONS

5.1 TOOLS OF OPERATION

5.1.1 OFFICIAL LANGUAGE

English shall be the official language used at all CCSDS-sponsored =
meetings. Furthermore, CCSDS correspondence, Reports, and =
Recommendations shall be in English.

5.1.2 CONSENSUS

The decisions of all CCSDS organizational units shall reached through =
consensus. In this context, consensus does not necessarily mean that =
unanimous agreement has been reached, but that the result incorporates =
the best set of compromises to which all parties can agree.

5.1.3 CMC RESOLUTIONS

CMC Resolutions are the executive decisions of the CMC and shall be =
concise statements of consensus among the CMC members.

----------------------------------------------

If I understand the consensus issue, and I lived it personally through =
in all of its conception process and phases, since its inception, back =
in January 1982, in the realm of CCSDS, I would understand that all the =
MC-E03-11 to 14 (NOT forgetting Genevi=E8ve's reminder on CNES pendency =
related to MC-E03-13) are already solidly approved, after the consensus =
that resulted from the votes of those who effectively could exert them. =
Let us not forget that quorum, in this case, is the result of an =
electronic response to an electronic request, with a deadline that was =
previously established. In this case, for practical purposes, they =
resulted in the electronic effectivation of CMC resolutions. Not to =
mention those reminders that we naturally are used to receive expressing =
that our vote will be considered as an approval if no manifest of vote =
is expressed within the deadline.

Best regards,


Eduardo=20



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  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Adrian J. Hooke=20
  To: CCSDS Management Council=20
  Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:47 PM
  Subject: RE: [CMC] Question re: recent CMC voting


  At 09:17 AM 1/7/2004, Allan, PM (Peter) wrote:

     When you say something has been approved, do you mean that 100% of =
those who voted approved? Otherwise how can something be approved if =
there was not a quorum?

  My assumption is that if there are no disapprovals, something is =
approved. I have no knowledge of whether or not the CMC requires a =
quorum in order to declare a vote successful. That's why I asked the =
question.


    On MC-E03-14, why do you say there is no consensus? 100% of the =
votes were cast for the Blue Book option. Admittedly it is not quorate, =
but that is no different to the other polls.

  In a private communication shortly before the departure of the =
Secretariat, it was my understanding that CSA had difficulty in =
accessing the voting site but in fact cast a vote for a Purple Book =
rather than a Blue Book, thus breaking consensus and rejecting the =
motion.


    I fear that the root cause of the shortage of votes is that the =
announcement of the poll came out shortly before the Christmas holiday.=20

  That may be, but the voting is now closed and in the absence of the =
Secretariat I do not know of any way to re-open it.

  Best regards
  Adrian


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    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Allan, PM (Peter)=20
    To: 'Adrian J. Hooke' ; CCSDS Management Council=20
    Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:17 PM
    Subject: RE: [CMC] Question re: recent CMC voting


    Adrian,

    I did not understand your e-mail. When you say something has been =
approved, do you mean that 100% of those who voted approved? Otherwise =
how can something be approved if there was not a quorum?

    On MC-E03-14, why do you say there is no consensus? 100% of the =
votes were cast for the Blue Book option. Admittedly it is not quorate, =
but that is no different to the other polls.

    I fear that the root cause of the shortage of votes is that the =
announcement of the poll came out shortly before the Christmas holiday. =
Although I voted, it was a rush as I only had about 3 working days to =
consult people. RAL shuts down for a week and a half, and many people =
take a fortnight off.

    Happy New Year

    Peter
    =
-----------------------------------------------------------------------=20
    Dr. Peter M. Allan=20
    Head, Space Data Division=20
    Space Science and Technology Department=20
    CCLRC/Rutherford Appleton Laboratory=20
    Chilton=20
    Didcot                                   Tel:     +44 (1235) 445723=20
    Oxon OX11 0QX                            fax:     +44 (1235) 446667=20
    England                                  e-mail: p.m.allan@rl.ac.uk=20

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Adrian J. Hooke [mailto:adrian.j.hooke@jpl.nasa.gov]
      Sent: 07 January 2004 16:15
      To: CCSDS Management Council
      Subject: [CMC] Question re: recent CMC voting


      Dear CMC Members:

      In the absence of the Secretariat, I have been checking the CMC =
Polls page http://www.ccsds.org/CCSDS/Poll myself to see what has =
happened to recent actions that were recommended for CMC action by the =
CESG.=20

      As far as I can tell the situation is as listed below. It would =
appear that although all four polls seem to lack an appropriate quorum =
of votes from senior Member Agencies:

      a) MC-E03-11/12 have been approved,=20
      b) MC-E03-13 has been approved pending ratifiaction by CNES, =20
      c) No consensus has been reached on MC-E03-14 and therefore it has =
been rejected and will require further CMC deliberation.

      Is this in fact the will of the CMC?

      Best regards
      Adrian J. Hooke
      Chairman, CCSDS Engineering Steering Group (CESG)

      +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
      MC-E03-11 The CCSDS resolves to approve the CESG-proposed changes =
to Proposal for Restructuring the CCSDS Organization and Processes =
(CCSDS A02.1-Y-1), as specified in the draft, d2Pink1-Restruct-15Dec031, =
and to reissue the document, with changes incorporated, as an issue-2 =
CCSDS Record (Yellow Book).

      Agree    5    100.00%   =20
      MDrexler on 2003-12-18
      EBergamini on 2003-12-19
      PAllan on 2003-12-22
      RNagashima on 2003-12-25
      GCampan on 2003-12-30

      Disagree 0 0.00%
      ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
      MC-E03-12 The CCSDS resolves to approve an additional Red Book =
review of Orbit Data Messages (CCSDS 502.0-R-3). This resolution =
supersedes resolutions MC-F02-06 and MC-F02-09, which, respectively, =
authorized issuance of the document as a Blue Book and directed former =
subpanel P1J to "utilize PVL, or preferably XML" in the published =
document.

      Agree    5    100.00% =20
      MDrexler on 2003-12-18
      EBergamini on 2003-12-19
      PAllan on 2003-12-22
      RNagashima on 2003-12-25
      GCampan on 2003-12-30

      Disagree 0 0.00%
      ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
      MC-E03-13 The CCSDS resolves to approve the following addition to =
the recommendations contained in the Radio Frequency and Modulation Blue =
Book (CCSDS 401-B): 2.2.8 Suppressed Carrier Telecommand Systems

      Agree    4    80.00%   =20
      MDrexler on 2003-12-18
      EBergamini on 2003-12-19
      PAllan on 2003-12-22
      RNagashima on 2003-12-25

      Disagree 1 20.00% GCampan on 2003-12-30
      Not really "disagree" but request time to check with our expert =
not available at this time. Answer expected by 9 January 2004
      ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
      MC-E03-14 The CCSDS resolves to approve release of =
Producer-Archive Interface Methodology Abstract Standard (CCSDS 651.0) =
as an issue-1 [Blue/Magenta]* Book. The Secretariat is requested to make =
arrangements for publication. *The resolution, if approved, will specify =
either Blue or Magenta.

      Approve publication as Blue Book    5    85.00%   =20
      MDrexler on 2003-12-18
      A book, once on the standadrs track, cannot and must not be moved =
to the practices track. From the white paper status on it must stay on =
its track. On the fly changes would mean that the CMC did a wrong =
decision on the white book level already, which cannot be the case!!! =
See CCSDS A02.1-Y-1 pink sheet page 6.
      EBergamini on 2003-12-19
      Consistency with original plan is being preserved.
      PAllan on 2003-12-22
      RNagashima on 2003-12-25
      GCampan on 2003-12-30

      Approve publication as Magenta Book 1   15.00% =20
      Hartman, Leo (off-poll communication to T. Gannett. Comment: I =
think the minimum criterion for a standard is that
      the CESG unanimously agrees that it should be one.)

      Disapprove 0 0.00%=20
      +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adrian,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I also did not understand your=20
e-mails.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The absence of more votes in all the =
recent CMC=20
&nbsp;MC-EXX-YYs related polls is directly related to the arguments =
pointed by=20
Allan. I, myself, was one that pointed to Neil, beginning =
December,&nbsp;the=20
need&nbsp;for issuing&nbsp; "reminding" e-messages, in&nbsp; addition=20
to&nbsp;the new (hopefully, more efficient)&nbsp;electronic polling=20
scheme&nbsp;that was recently&nbsp;inaugurated in the newly=20
structured&nbsp;CCSDS&nbsp; site. Thanks to&nbsp;Neil's attention, since =

then,&nbsp;it has been&nbsp;done and, very possibly, it already =
reflected on=20
higher voting rates in relation to current set of issues we are =
discussing=20
over.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The consensus issue. The pertinent =
excerpt of our=20
CCSDS A00.0-Y-9 Procedures Manual, as of Nov. 2003, reads: </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face=3DTimesNewRoman,Bold>5 OPERATIONS</FONT></B></DIV>
<DIV><B></B>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face=3DTimesNewRoman,Bold>5.1 TOOLS OF =
OPERATION</FONT></B></DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face=3DTimesNewRoman,Bold></FONT></B>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face=3DTimesNewRoman,Bold>5.1.1 OFFICIAL =
LANGUAGE</FONT></B></DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face=3DTimesNewRoman,Bold></FONT></B>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face=3DTimesNewRoman,Bold></B></FONT><FONT=20
face=3DTimesNewRoman>English shall be the official language used at all=20
CCSDS-sponsored meetings. Furthermore, CCSDS correspondence, Reports, =
and=20
Recommendations shall be in English.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face=3DTimesNewRoman,Bold>5.1.2 CONSENSUS</FONT></B></DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face=3DTimesNewRoman,Bold></FONT></B>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face=3DTimesNewRoman,Bold></B></FONT><FONT =
face=3DTimesNewRoman>The=20
decisions of all CCSDS organizational units shall reached through =
consensus. In=20
this context, consensus does not necessarily mean that unanimous =
agreement has=20
been reached, but that the result incorporates the best set of =
compromises to=20
which all parties can agree.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face=3DTimesNewRoman,Bold>5.1.3 CMC =
RESOLUTIONS</FONT></B></DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face=3DTimesNewRoman,Bold></FONT></B>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><B><FONT face=3DTimesNewRoman,Bold></B></FONT><FONT =
face=3DTimesNewRoman>CMC=20
Resolutions are the executive decisions of the CMC and shall be concise=20
statements of consensus among the CMC members.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>----------------------------------------------</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTimesNewRoman><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If I understand the consensus issue, =
and I lived it=20
personally&nbsp;through in all of its conception process and phases, =
since its=20
inception, back in January 1982, in the realm of CCSDS, I would =
understand that=20
all the MC-E03-11 to 14 (NOT forgetting Genevi=E8ve's reminder =
on&nbsp;CNES=20
pendency related to&nbsp;MC-E03-13)&nbsp;are&nbsp;already solidly=20
approved,&nbsp;after the consensus that resulted from&nbsp;the votes=20
of&nbsp;those who effectively could&nbsp;exert them.&nbsp;Let us not =
forget that=20
quorum, in this case, is the result of an electronic response to an=20
electronic&nbsp;request, with a deadline that was previously =
established. In=20
this case,&nbsp;for practical purposes, they resulted in=20
the&nbsp;electronic&nbsp;effectivation of&nbsp;CMC&nbsp;resolutions. Not =
to=20
mention those reminders that we naturally are used to =
receive&nbsp;expressing=20
that our vote will be considered as an approval if no manifest of vote =
is=20
expressed within the deadline.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Eduardo&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>
<HR>
</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dadrian.j.hooke@jpl.nasa.gov=20
  href=3D"mailto:adrian.j.hooke@jpl.nasa.gov">Adrian J. Hooke</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dcmc@mailman.ccsds.org=20
  href=3D"mailto:cmc@mailman.ccsds.org">CCSDS Management Council</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 07, =
2004 3:47=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CMC] Question re: =
recent=20
  CMC voting</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT><FONT=20
  face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>At 09:17 AM 1/7/2004, Allan, PM =
(Peter)=20
  wrote:<BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT face=3Darial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>&nbsp;When you say something has been approved, do you mean =
that 100%=20
    of those who voted approved? Otherwise how can something be approved =
if=20
    there was not a quorum?</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>My assumption is that =
if there=20
  are no disapprovals, something is approved. I have no knowledge of =
whether or=20
  not the CMC requires a quorum in order to declare a vote successful. =
That's=20
  why I asked the question.<BR><BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT face=3Darial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>On MC-E03-14, why do you say there is no consensus? 100% of =
the votes=20
    were cast for the Blue Book option. Admittedly it is not quorate, =
but that=20
    is no different to the other polls.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>In a =
private=20
  communication shortly before the departure of the Secretariat, it was =
my=20
  understanding that CSA had difficulty in accessing the voting site but =
in fact=20
  cast a vote for a Purple Book rather than a Blue Book, thus breaking =
consensus=20
  and rejecting the motion.<BR><BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT face=3Darial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>I fear that the root cause of the shortage of votes is that =
the=20
    announcement of the poll came out shortly before the Christmas =
holiday.=20
    </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT><FONT=20
  face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><BR>That may be, but the voting is now =
closed and in=20
  the absence of the Secretariat I do not know of any way to re-open=20
  it.<BR><BR>Best regards<BR>Adrian</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>
  <HR>
  </DIV>
  <DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3DP.M.Allan@rl.ac.uk =
href=3D"mailto:P.M.Allan@rl.ac.uk">Allan, PM=20
    (Peter) </A></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
    title=3Dadrian.j.hooke@jpl.nasa.gov=20
    href=3D"mailto:adrian.j.hooke@jpl.nasa.gov">'Adrian J. Hooke'</A> ; =
<A=20
    title=3Dcmc@mailman.ccsds.org =
href=3D"mailto:cmc@mailman.ccsds.org">CCSDS=20
    Management Council</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 07, =
2004 3:17=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [CMC] Question =
re: recent=20
    CMC voting</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D112551017-07012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>Adrian,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D112551017-07012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D112551017-07012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
    did not understand your e-mail. When you say something has been =
approved, do=20
    you mean that 100% of those who voted approved? Otherwise how can =
something=20
    be approved if there was not a quorum?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D112551017-07012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D112551017-07012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>On=20
    MC-E03-14, why do you say there is no consensus? 100% of the votes =
were cast=20
    for the Blue Book option. Admittedly it is not quorate, but that is =
no=20
    different to the other polls.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D112551017-07012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D112551017-07012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
    fear that the root cause of the shortage of votes&nbsp;is that the=20
    announcement of the poll came out shortly before the Christmas =
holiday.=20
    Although I voted, it was a rush as I only had about 3 working days =
to=20
    consult people. RAL shuts down for a week and a half, and many =
people take a=20
    fortnight off.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D112551017-07012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D112551017-07012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>Happy New Year</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D112551017-07012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D112551017-07012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>Peter</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D112551017-07012004>
    <P><FONT face=3DArial=20
    =
size=3D2>----------------------------------------------------------------=
-------</FONT>=20
    <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dr. Peter M. Allan</FONT> <BR><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2>Head, Space Data Division</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Space=20
    Science and Technology Department</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2>CCLRC/Rutherford Appleton Laboratory</FONT> <BR><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2>Chilton</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20
    =
size=3D2>Didcot&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
=20
    Tel:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; +44 (1235) 445723</FONT> <BR><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2>Oxon OX11=20
    =
0QX&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    fax:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; +44 (1235) 446667</FONT> <BR><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
    =
size=3D2>England&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    e-mail: p.m.allan@rl.ac.uk</FONT> </P></SPAN></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE>
      <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
      size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Adrian J. =
Hooke=20
      [mailto:adrian.j.hooke@jpl.nasa.gov]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 07 January =
2004=20
      16:15<BR><B>To:</B> CCSDS Management Council<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
[CMC]=20
      Question re: recent CMC voting<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Dear CMC=20
      Members:<BR><BR>In the absence of the Secretariat, I have been =
checking=20
      the CMC Polls page <A href=3D"http://www.ccsds.org/CCSDS/Poll"=20
      eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.ccsds.org/CCSDS/Poll</A> myself to =
see what=20
      has happened to recent actions that were recommended for CMC =
action by the=20
      CESG. <BR><BR>As far as I can tell the situation is as listed =
below. It=20
      would appear that <U>although all four polls seem to lack an =
appropriate=20
      quorum of votes from senior Member Agencies</U>:<BR><BR>a) =
MC-E03-11/12=20
      have been approved, <BR>b) MC-E03-13 has been approved pending=20
      ratifiaction by CNES,&nbsp; <BR>c) No consensus has been reached =
on=20
      MC-E03-14 and therefore it has been rejected and will require =
further CMC=20
      deliberation.<BR><BR>Is this in fact the will of the =
CMC?<BR><BR>Best=20
      regards<BR>Adrian J. Hooke<BR>Chairman, CCSDS Engineering Steering =
Group=20
      (CESG)<BR><BR>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<BR>MC-E03-11 =
The CCSDS=20
      resolves to approve the CESG-proposed changes to Proposal for=20
      Restructuring the CCSDS Organization and Processes (CCSDS =
A02.1-Y-1), as=20
      specified in the draft, d2Pink1-Restruct-15Dec031, and to reissue =
the=20
      document, with changes incorporated, as an issue-2 CCSDS Record =
(Yellow=20
      Book).<BR><BR>Agree&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      100.00%&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>MDrexler on 2003-12-18<BR>EBergamini =
on=20
      2003-12-19<BR>PAllan on 2003-12-22<BR>RNagashima on =
2003-12-25<BR>GCampan=20
      on 2003-12-30<BR><BR>Disagree 0=20
      0.00%<BR>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<BR>MC-E03-12 The =
CCSDS=20
      resolves to approve an additional Red Book review of Orbit Data =
Messages=20
      (CCSDS 502.0-R-3). This resolution supersedes resolutions =
MC-F02-06 and=20
      MC-F02-09, which, respectively, authorized issuance of the =
document as a=20
      Blue Book and directed former subpanel P1J to "utilize PVL, or =
preferably=20
      XML" in the published document.<BR><BR>Agree&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 100.00%&nbsp; <BR>MDrexler on =
2003-12-18<BR>EBergamini=20
      on 2003-12-19<BR>PAllan on 2003-12-22<BR>RNagashima on=20
      2003-12-25<BR>GCampan on 2003-12-30<BR><BR>Disagree 0=20
      0.00%<BR>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<BR>MC-E03-13 The =
CCSDS=20
      resolves to approve the following addition to the recommendations=20
      contained in the Radio Frequency and Modulation Blue Book (CCSDS =
401-B):=20
      2.2.8 Suppressed Carrier Telecommand=20
      Systems<BR><BR>Agree&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      80.00%&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>MDrexler on 2003-12-18<BR>EBergamini =
on=20
      2003-12-19<BR>PAllan on 2003-12-22<BR>RNagashima on=20
      2003-12-25<BR><BR>Disagree 1 20.00% GCampan on 2003-12-30<BR>Not =
really=20
      "disagree" but request time to check with our expert not available =
at this=20
      time. Answer expected by 9 January=20
      2004<BR>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<BR>MC-E03-14 The =
CCSDS=20
      resolves to approve release of Producer-Archive Interface =
Methodology=20
      Abstract Standard (CCSDS 651.0) as an issue-1 [Blue/Magenta]* =
Book. The=20
      Secretariat is requested to make arrangements for publication. =
*The=20
      resolution, if approved, will specify either Blue or=20
      Magenta.<BR><BR>Approve publication as Blue Book&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

      5&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 85.00%&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>MDrexler on=20
      2003-12-18<BR>A book, once on the standadrs track, cannot and must =
not be=20
      moved to the practices track. From the white paper status on it =
must stay=20
      on its track. On the fly changes would mean that the CMC did a =
wrong=20
      decision on the white book level already, which cannot be the =
case!!! See=20
      CCSDS A02.1-Y-1 pink sheet page 6.<BR>EBergamini on=20
      2003-12-19<BR>Consistency with original plan is being =
preserved.<BR>PAllan=20
      on 2003-12-22<BR>RNagashima on 2003-12-25<BR>GCampan on=20
      2003-12-30<BR><BR>Approve publication as Magenta Book =
1&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      15.00%&nbsp; <BR>Hartman, Leo (off-poll communication to T. =
Gannett.=20
      Comment: I think the minimum criterion for a standard is =
that<BR>the CESG=20
      unanimously agrees that it should be one.)<BR><BR>Disapprove 0 =
0.00%=20
      =
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