[CESG] Fw: REMINDER: Draft Notes of CESG meeting on 15th May 2017

Tue May 23 18:07:12 UTC 2017

Peter,

>>During CESG discussion three other areas (CSS, SIS, SOIS) also supported 
the SEA AD position
I do not recall that there was such an unconditioned support of your 
position from all the other (NASA) ADs. But I might be wrong and it would 
be nice to hear directly from them. 

I recall that the MP&S WG has discussed the matter in San Antonio and have 
unanimously (i.e. including all the NASA and JPL representatives) came up 
with the following internal statement:

"We discussed this point and the whole WG confirmed that we want one BB 
and not two, especially taking into account that:

1. There is a logical link between information model and services (the 
information model is service aware, although the data formats can be used 
without services) hence we somehow must think about the services also when 
defining the information model (e.g. Grouping if the entities, ...)

2. We spent a lot of effort in ensuring the resources required for this BB 
project (writing the book + 2 agencies committed resources for 
prototyping). the BB will earliest be published in 2020-21. We do not want 
to start doing the same effort gathering exercise for a second BB just for 
services to be published in 2025-26!! 

3. The BB project in its current scope approved by CESG and CMC clearly 
has both services and information model in it. Peter objected already back 
then but was overruled by everyone else."

Could you please participate to the doodle so that I can establish a date 
for the webex? Otherwise we do not make the CMC.

Many thanks,

__Mario

From:   "Shames, Peter M (312B)" <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>
To:     "Nestor.Peccia at esa.int" <Nestor.Peccia at esa.int>, "CCSDS 
Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec(cesg at mailman.ccsds.org)" 
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Date:   23/05/2017 18:46
Subject:        Re: [CESG] Fw: REMINDER: Draft Notes of CESG meeting on 
15th May 2017
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Ciao Nestor,

Please see attached edits, applied to the version you last sent out.

Cheers, Peter

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<Nestor.Peccia at esa.int>
Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 1:06 AM
To: CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>
Subject: [CESG] Fw: REMINDER: Draft Notes of CESG meeting on 15th May 2017

Dear Margherita, Peter, Jonathan, Scott, Wallace 

Please insert your comment (if any) into the last file sent by Erik. 

ciao 
nestor 
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From:        "Barkley, Erik J (3970)" <erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov> 
To:        "Nestor.Peccia at esa.int" <Nestor.Peccia at esa.int> 
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Date:        22/05/2017 23:05 
Subject:        RE: [CESG] REMINDER: Draft Notes of CESG meeting on 15th 
May 2017 

Nestor, 

Attached please find my comments on the draft notes. I have added them to 
the inputs you have already received from Mario, Gilles, and Brigitte. 

Best regards, 
-Erik 

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Nestor.Peccia at esa.int
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Subject: [CESG] REMINDER: Draft Notes of CESG meeting on 15th May 2017 

R E M I N D E R  (w/o attachments) 

========================== 

Dear all, 

Please find attached the draft notes of our meeting and the updated 
presentation used during our discussion. I have literally (with small 
grammatical changes) include the text of the pptx into the word document. 

[attachment "d0.1-CESG-Spring-17 Notes.docx" deleted by Nestor 
Peccia/esoc/ESA] [attachment "CESG S17 Meeting V1.pptx" deleted by Nestor 
Peccia/esoc/ESA] 

Your comments at the latest by Wednesday 24th May 2017 cob 

and thanks again for your effort to complete all agenda items during our 9 
hrs meeting. 

ciao 
nestor 
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