<font size=2 face="Arial">Peter,</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="Arial">>>During CESG discussion three other
areas (CSS, SIS, SOIS) also supported the SEA AD position</font>
<br><font size=2 face="Arial">I do not recall that there was such an unconditioned
support of your position from all the other (NASA) ADs. But I might be
wrong and it would be nice to hear directly from them. </font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="Arial">I recall that the MP&S WG has discussed
the matter in San Antonio and have unanimously (i.e. including all the
NASA and JPL representatives) came up with the following internal statement:</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">"We discussed this point
and the whole WG confirmed that we want one BB and not two, especially
taking into account that:</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">1. There is a logical link between
information model and services (the information model is service aware,
although the data formats can be used without services) hence we somehow
must think about the services also when defining the information model
(e.g. Grouping if the entities, ...)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">2. We spent a lot of effort in
ensuring the resources required for this BB project (writing the book +
2 agencies committed resources for prototyping). the BB will earliest be
published in 2020-21. We do not want to start doing the same effort gathering
exercise for a second BB just for services to be published in 2025-26!!
</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">3. The BB project in its current
scope approved by CESG and CMC clearly has both services and information
model in it. Peter objected already back then but was overruled by everyone
else."</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="Arial">Could you please participate to the doodle
so that I can establish a date for the webex? Otherwise we do not make
the CMC.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="Arial">Many thanks,</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="Arial">__Mario</font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">From:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">"Shames, Peter
M (312B)" <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov></font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">To:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">"Nestor.Peccia@esa.int"
<Nestor.Peccia@esa.int>, "CCSDS Engineering Steering Group -
CESG Exec(cesg@mailman.ccsds.org)" <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org></font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Date:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">23/05/2017 18:46</font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Subject:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Re: [CESG] Fw:
REMINDER: Draft Notes of CESG meeting on 15th May 2017</font>
<br><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif">Sent by:
</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">"CESG"
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<br><font size=2 face="Calibri">Ciao Nestor,</font>
<br><font size=2 face="Calibri"> </font>
<br><font size=2 face="Calibri">Please see attached edits, applied to the
version you last sent out.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="Calibri"> </font>
<br><font size=2 face="Calibri">Cheers, Peter</font>
<br><font size=2 face="Calibri"> </font>
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<br><font size=3 face="Calibri"><b>From: </b>CESG <cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org>
on behalf of Nestor Peccia <Nestor.Peccia@esa.int><b><br>
Date: </b>Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 1:06 AM<b><br>
To: </b>CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org><b><br>
Subject: </b>[CESG] Fw: REMINDER: Draft Notes of CESG meeting on 15th May
2017</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Dear Margherita, Peter, Jonathan, Scott,
Wallace</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b><br>
</b></font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b><br>
Please insert your comment (if any) into the last file sent by Erik.</b></font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
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</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><br>
ciao</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><br>
nestor</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=1 color=#800080 face="sans-serif"><br>
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From: </font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">"Barkley,
Erik J (3970)" <erik.j.barkley@jpl.nasa.gov></font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
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To: </font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">"Nestor.Peccia@esa.int"
<Nestor.Peccia@esa.int></font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
</font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif"><br>
Cc: </font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">"CESG
-- CCSDS-Engineering Steering Group (cesg@mailman.ccsds.org) (cesg@mailman.ccsds.org)"
<cesg@mailman.ccsds.org></font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
</font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif"><br>
Date: </font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">22/05/2017
23:05</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=1 color=#5f5f5f face="sans-serif"><br>
Subject: </font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">RE:
[CESG] REMINDER: Draft Notes of CESG meeting on 15th May 2017</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
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Nestor,</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri"><br>
</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri"><br>
Attached please find my comments on the draft notes. I have added them
to the inputs you have already received from Mario, Gilles, and Brigitte.</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
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Best regards,</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri"><br>
-Erik</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=2 color=#004080 face="Calibri"><br>
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Subject:</b> [CESG] REMINDER: Draft Notes of CESG meeting on 15th May 2017</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
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R E M I N D E R (w/o attachments)</b></font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
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Dear all,</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
<br>
Please find attached the draft notes of our meeting and the updated presentation
used during our discussion. I have literally (with small grammatical changes)
include the text of the pptx into the word document.</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
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Your comments at the latest by Wednesday 24th May 2017 cob </u></b></font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
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and thanks again for your effort to complete all agenda items during our
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