[CESG] Use of "Substantive changes"
Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int
Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int
Mon May 15 17:42:08 UTC 2017
So the condition is
IF substantive changes AND no technical comment
THEN Agency Review
ELSE No further Agency Review
In the ELSE I see also the possibility
substantive changes AND technical comment ===> no further Agency
review
Enjoy and smile :o)
Gippo
From: "Shames, Peter M (312B)" <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>
To: "Mario Merri" <Mario.Merri at esa.int>
Cc: "CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec"
<cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>
Date: 15/05/2017 19:30
Subject: [CESG] Use of "Substantive changes"
Sent by: "CESG" <cesg-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org>
Hi Mario,
You just mentioned that you thought the word "substantive" did not appear
in the CCSDS YB. But it does, in sec 6.2.5.2 (emphasis added):
6.2.5 FORMAL AGENCY REVIEW
6.2.5.2 Once review of a document has been authorized, that document may
be reviewed more than once without additional polling of the CMC:
. c) if substantive changes are made to a document that has
completed review without technical comment, the Secretariat shall conduct
a final review in which Agencies can approve or reject the document but
may not suggest additional changes; ?
As with most words in the English language that are used in our documents,
but not specifically defined, we depend on common usage in English to
define meanings. In this case we can refer to one or more dictionary
definitions for this "common usage". Try these:
Google primary definition
sub·stan·tive
adjective
adjective: substantive
1. having a firm basis in reality and therefore important,
meaningful, or considerable.
"there is no substantive evidence for the efficacy of these drugs"
Oxford dictionary definition
substantive
adjective
· Having a firm basis in reality and so important, meaningful, or
considerable.
?there is no substantive evidence for the efficacy of these drugs?
There are also a few uses of "substantive change", but these tend to be
organization / topic specific. A couple that are relevant are these:
When you talk about substantive change, you mean change that really makes
a difference.
Substantive change is a significant modification or expansion in the
nature and scope of an accredited institution
So this specific definition mentions "accredited organization", for us it
could say "draft document", and that would have appropriate meaning in our
context. I think that these meanings are clear. I hope you do as well.
Regards, Peter
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