[CESG] Fwd: [CMC] ISO Affiliation with CCSDS

[Behal Brigitte]

As Gilles said, I have only used CCSDS or ECSS standards in the space projects I have worked for. Therefore I cannot assess the impact of severing our affiliation to ISO. If we really fear some possible overlaps, negotiating the affiliation fees could be a good option.
Best regards,
B. Behal
Directrice des Achats, des Recettes externes et des Affaires juridiques
Bpi 1625
Tel: 73396


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I share the 2 points mentioned by Mario :

·         ISO more internationally recognized than CCSDS (in fact ISO is the highest standardization body worldwide)

·         Transfer of CCSDS recommendations into ISO standards avoids potential overlap with other ISO standards or even regional standards (like European Norms (EN))
Nevertheless, space agencies and industry working on institutional projects use CCSDS recommendations only. Therefore the added value of ISO for space agencies is limited to an international recognition of the CCSDS work, which is hard to quantify in terms of benefit versus cost.

Regards,
Gilles

Gilles MOURY
CNES Toulouse
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Objet : Re: [CESG] Fwd: [CMC] ISO Affiliation with CCSDS

I personally think that the association with ISO is a plus for CCSDS as ISO is certainly more internationally recognised and visible than CCSDS. This association has also avoided that ISO developed independently standards that might overlap with the CCSDS ones (see for instance the complexity of the relationships between CCSDS and OMG on XTCE).

Having said that I am not aware of the costs of this association. Maybe, a way forward could be to try to re-negotiate with ISO these costs, if at all possible.

Regards,

__Mario



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Dear all
I would appreciate your prompt reaction
Without copying the CMC, such that the CESG can provide a consensed response
Ciao
Nestor

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On 30 Nov 2015, 17:17:19, "James Afarin" <james.afarin at nasa.gov<mailto:james.afarin at nasa.gov>> wrote:
Hi All,

CCSDS secretariat is considering to sever the CCSDS affiliation with ISO due to cost of implementation of ISO requirements and associated fees.  The consequence are the CCSDS standards will not be ISO standards and there will be no ISO TC20/SC13 and ISO TC20/SC14 affiliation with CCSDS.  I need to make an urgent decision in this matter so please provide your input by COB Thursday December 3.  Also a formal CMC poll will be provided for your official vote very soon.

Thank you,

James

Dr. James Afarin

Space Data Standards Manager
Space Communications and Navigation Division
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