[Smwg] CCSDS RID Form - Beta testing requested.

John Pietras john.pietras at gst.com
Tue Jun 11 14:47:13 UTC 2019

I'm using Adobe Acrobat Pro/Windows 7. At least on my screen, when I look at the form the colors don't conform to your color code. However, they *do* conform once the cursor has been placed in a field. The fields that are supposed to be pink and light blue are mauve, and the fields that are supposed to be green are light blue:

[cid:image001.png at 01D52043.07198BB0]

Having experimented with this and knowing what the right answer is, I can personally correct for this. But it might be confusing to others. Perhaps you could also preface the names of the mandatory field with '*' (e.g., *SUBMITTING ORGANIZATION), optional with '-' (-SUPPORTING ANALYSIS), and prohibited with some other character (e.g., #DISPOSITION) and add those "definitions" to the instructions.

Best regards,

From: Colin.Haddow at esa.int [mailto:Colin.Haddow at esa.int]
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Subject: CCSDS RID Form - Beta testing requested.

Dear all,
                 attached is a revised version of the prototype RID form. This should work with recent versions of Acrobat Reader. Hopefully the instructions in the form will be self explanatory. I'd be grateful if you could spent a few minutes "playing" with the form and let me know if you find any issues or have any comments.

You will notice that when you delete a RID, it is replaced by a page stating "RID Deleted"., this is because when you insert a form page the fields on it are named based on the page number, however if you delete a page the existing fields on the pages after the deleted page are not renamed. The document however now contains 1 page less and so if you then insert a new RID you end up with duplicate filed names which has interesting consequences. As far as I can tell (bearing in mind I am by no means an Adobe/Java Script whizzkid) there is no straightforward way to work round this, hence the approach of just entering a page stating "RID Deleted.". This keeps the page count the same so there are no duplicate field names.

The issue with merging files of RIDs into one using Adobe Acrobat or similar tools is essentially the same - it leads to duplicate field names.

Anyway any feedback gratefully received, especially for non-Windows platforms as I've only tested on my Windows 10 laptop using Acrobat Reader 2017.

Cheers for now,


Dr. Colin R. Haddow,
HSO-GI, European Space Agency,
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