FW: ESA input for: [SLS-SLP] JAXA RIDs on AOS + TM Pink Sheets

Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int
Tue Mar 24 23:11:45 UTC 2009

?OID Frame? = ?Only Idle Data_field? Frame   :-)

?FDFI? Frame for ?Frame Data Field Idle? Frame looks recursive :-)

More correct would be "Only Idle Data in Data Field" Frame = OIDDF Frame

We shall set the same term everywhere.
Idle Frame is misleading.
OID is not perfect but more correct and already defined for Packet TM 
Then the simplest is to say that OID Frame is a short form for OIDDF 

Let's discuss it in Colorado otherwise we enter in a loop.


Gian Paolo

sls-slp-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org wrote on 23-03-2009 19:55:21:

> All,
> The problem with the term, ?OID Frame? or ?Only Idle Data? Frame  is
> that it still doesn?t clearly convey the fact that the PAYLOAD or 
> FRAME DATA FIELD of the frame contains idle data, and that other 
> fields of the transfer frame such as Insert Zone (AOS), Frame 
> Secondary Header (TM), or OCF (all) DO NOT contain Idle data.
> Until we have a clear way of specifying that concept, we haven?t 
> really made progress unfortunately.
> So I believe the distinction we are trying to make is about frames 
> that contain idle data in the Frame Data Field, therefore ?FDFI? 
> Frame for ?Frame Data Field Idle?.
> Your comments?
> thanks,
> Greg
> From: Greenberg, Edward 
> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 9:03 AM
> To: Kazz, Greg J
> Subject: Re: ESA input for: [SLS-SLP] JAXA RIDs on AOS + TM Pink Sheets
> OID is Only Idle Data. If frame contains Insert Data then it isn?t 
> OID.  You could call it NFDI for No Frame Data Included
> On 3/23/09 8:54 AM, "Kazz, Greg J" <greg.j.kazz at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> 1) An Idle Packet carries no useful data: This applies to an Idle Space
> Packet and to an Idle (or Fill) Encapsulation Packet (see below).
> However, the AOS Insert Service uses the Insert Field of every Transfer
> Frame on the Physical Channel, including the Idle Frames. Therefore, an
> Idle Frame can carry useful data so the name "Idle Frame" is not fully
> appropriate. The Pink Sheets provide the new name "OID Frame".
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