[Sls-rfm] B20.0-Y-1 / Any re-action expected

Wed Oct 12 13:11:49 UTC 2016

Dear Enrico:

The status table is produced from a database that contains a lot of useless
information and applies calculations uniformly across all the documents,
sometimes producing useless results.

However, in 2010 you did indicate uncertainty about the lifespan of the
meeting proceedings documents, and I think even you might agree that it does
not hurt to revisit them occasionally to determine whether they are of
continued use (reconfirmation review includes the option of retirement). You
are in the best position to know whether they are of continued use.

In the case of the three RF&Mod proceedings documents, actually only one
exists electronically; the other two were hardcopy only. Fairly recently, if
you recall, we both searched for an extant copy of one of them, querying all
the old-timers we could think of, and discovered that not a single a copy
could be found. So whether it is to anyone's benefit to continue to list the
books as active CCSDS publications is actually a good question.

If it were up to me, I would retire both CCSDS 421.0-G-1 and CCSDS
B20.0-Y-1, since the CCSDS is unable to produce a copy of either; but it is
not really my call. I think if I set the next status of CCSDS B20.0-Y-2 to
"none" it may no longer catch Gian Paolo's attention, but the next-status
date field will continue to have some value in it. Maybe he can remember not
to ask you about it.

Best regards,

Tom

Thomas Gannett

thomas.gannett at tgannett.net

+1 443 472 0805

From: Enrico.Vassallo at esa.int [mailto:Enrico.Vassallo at esa.int] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:21 AM
To: Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int
Cc: Tom Gannett; Gilles Moury; sls-rfm at mailman.ccsds.org;
Nestor.Peccia at esa.int
Subject: Re: B20.0-Y-1 / Any re-action expected

Tom should have fixed this problem in 2010. 

The ball is with him. 

Please stop involving RFM WG on this. If anything is needed, do it at SLS or
CESG level. 

Cheers, Enrico 
----- Forwarded by Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA on 12/10/2016 12:15 ----- 

From:        Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA 
To:        tomg at aiaa.org 
Cc:        "Jean-luc Gerner" <jeanluc.gerner at yahoo.com>, "Moury Gilles"
<gilles.moury at cnes.fr> 
Date:        13/08/2010 10:30 
Subject:        Re: Status of CCSDS books 

  _____  

Tom, 

I reviewed the documents under my two groups. I have the following comments:

1) 413.0-G-1        It's obsolete and replaced by G-2 and therefore I think
it should disappear from the list (for instance we have 401.0-B-20 but not
all 19 previous issues listed.) 

2) 421.0-G-1, B20.0-Y-1, B20.0-Y-2         

These are proceedings from 1989, 1993 and 2001. I am not sure what is the
lifetime plan for proceedings. For sure they do not need reconfirmation
review. I would be inclined to keep them on the list as current since
proceedings never become obsolete, and remove the next action and its date.
Also the responsibility should be transferred to secretariat. However, I am
happy to discuss this proposal if rules exist also for proceedings. 

Sorry for the delay in my response, 

Enrico 

From:        Gian Paolo Calzolari/esoc/ESA 
To:        Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA at ESA 
Cc:        "Tom Gannett" <thomas.gannett at tgannett.net>, "Gilles Moury"
<Gilles.Moury at cnes.fr>, sls-rfm at mailman.ccsds.org 
Date:        12/10/2016 11:46 
Subject:        Re: B20.0-Y-1 / Any re-action expected 

  _____  

Enrico, 
         I am sure it will never change. 
I was just wondering whether there is a need for e.g. a WG Resolution to
finally/definitively put the next action date to year 3000   :o) 

Regards 

Gian Paolo 

From:        Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA 
To:        Gian Paolo Calzolari/esoc/ESA at ESA 
Cc:        "Tom Gannett" <thomas.gannett at tgannett.net>, "Gilles Moury"
<Gilles.Moury at cnes.fr>, sls-rfm at mailman.ccsds.org 
Date:        12/10/2016 11:44 
Subject:        Re: B20.0-Y-1 / Any re-action expected 

  _____  

This is a collection of input papers. It cannot be changed !!!! 

We told this to the CCSDS World many times already. Please stop this
proliferation of useless information. 

Regards, Enrico 

From:        Gian Paolo Calzolari/esoc/ESA 
To:        "Tom Gannett" <thomas.gannett at tgannett.net> 
Cc:        "Gilles Moury" <Gilles.Moury at cnes.fr>, Enrico
Vassallo/esoc/ESA at ESA 
Date:        12/10/2016 11:38 
Subject:        B20.0-Y-1 / Any re-action expected 

  _____  

Tom, 
        do you need any (re)action from the WG to state that this book is
going to stay as is? 
Thanks 

Gian Paolo 

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