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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear Enrico:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The status table is produced from a database that contains a lot of useless information and applies calculations uniformly across all the documents, sometimes producing useless results.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>However, in 2010 you did indicate uncertainty about the lifespan of the meeting proceedings documents, and I think even you might agree that it does not hurt to revisit them occasionally to determine whether they are of continued use (reconfirmation review includes the option of retirement). You are in the best position to know whether they are of continued use.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In the case of the three RF&Mod proceedings documents, actually only one exists electronically; the other two were hardcopy only. Fairly recently, if you recall, we both searched for an extant copy of one of them, querying all the old-timers we could think of, and discovered that not a single a copy could be found. So whether it is to anyone’s benefit to continue to list the books as active CCSDS publications is actually a good question.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If it were up to me, I would retire both CCSDS 421.0-G-1 and CCSDS B20.0-Y-1, since the CCSDS is unable to produce a copy of either; but it is not really my call. I think if I set the next status of CCSDS B20.0-Y-2 to “none” it may no longer catch Gian Paolo’s attention, but the next-status date field will continue to have some value in it. Maybe he can remember not to ask you about it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tom<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thomas Gannett<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>thomas.gannett@tgannett.net<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>+1 443 472 0805<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int [mailto:Enrico.Vassallo@esa.int] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:21 AM<br><b>To:</b> Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int<br><b>Cc:</b> Tom Gannett; Gilles Moury; sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org; Nestor.Peccia@esa.int<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: B20.0-Y-1 / Any re-action expected<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Tom should have fixed this problem in 2010.</span> <br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The ball is with him.</span> <br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Please stop involving RFM WG on this. If anything is needed, do it at SLS or CESG level.</span> <br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Cheers, Enrico</span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple'>----- Forwarded by Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA on 12/10/2016 12:15 -----</span> <br><br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>From: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA</span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>To: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:tomg@aiaa.org">tomg@aiaa.org</a></span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Cc: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>"Jean-luc Gerner" <<a href="mailto:jeanluc.gerner@yahoo.com">jeanluc.gerner@yahoo.com</a>>, "Moury Gilles" <<a href="mailto:gilles.moury@cnes.fr">gilles.moury@cnes.fr</a>></span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Date: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>13/08/2010 10:30</span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Subject: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Re: Status of CCSDS books</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Tom,</span> <br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I reviewed the documents under my two groups. I have the following comments:</span> <br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>1) 413.0-G-1 It's obsolete and replaced by G-2 and therefore I think it should disappear from the list (for instance we have 401.0-B-20 but not all 19 previous issues listed.)</span> <br><br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>2) 421.0-G-1, B20.0-Y-1, B20.0-Y-2 </span> <br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>These are proceedings from 1989, 1993 and 2001. I am not sure what is the lifetime plan for proceedings. For sure they do not need reconfirmation review. I would be inclined to keep them on the list as current since proceedings never become obsolete, and remove the next action and its date. Also the responsibility should be transferred to secretariat. However, I am happy to discuss this proposal if rules exist also for proceedings.</span> <br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sorry for the delay in my response,</span> <br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Enrico</span> <br><br><br><br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>From: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Gian Paolo Calzolari/esoc/ESA</span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>To: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA@ESA</span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Cc: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>"Tom Gannett" <<a href="mailto:thomas.gannett@tgannett.net">thomas.gannett@tgannett.net</a>>, "Gilles Moury" <<a href="mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr">Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</a>>, <a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org">sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</a></span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Date: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>12/10/2016 11:46</span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Subject: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Re: B20.0-Y-1 / Any re-action expected</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Enrico,</span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> I am sure it will never change.</span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I was just wondering whether there is a need for e.g. a WG Resolution to finally/definitively put the next action date to year 3000 :o)</span> <br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Regards</span> <br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Gian Paolo</span> <br><br><br><br><br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>From: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA</span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>To: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Gian Paolo Calzolari/esoc/ESA@ESA</span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Cc: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>"Tom Gannett" <<a href="mailto:thomas.gannett@tgannett.net">thomas.gannett@tgannett.net</a>>, "Gilles Moury" <<a href="mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr">Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</a>>, <a href="mailto:sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org">sls-rfm@mailman.ccsds.org</a></span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Date: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>12/10/2016 11:44</span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Subject: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Re: B20.0-Y-1 / Any re-action expected</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>This is a collection of input papers. It cannot be changed !!!!</span> <br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>We told this to the CCSDS World many times already. Please stop this proliferation of useless information.</span> <br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Regards, Enrico</span> <br><br><br><br><br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>From: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Gian Paolo Calzolari/esoc/ESA</span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>To: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>"Tom Gannett" <<a href="mailto:thomas.gannett@tgannett.net">thomas.gannett@tgannett.net</a>></span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Cc: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>"Gilles Moury" <<a href="mailto:Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr">Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr</a>>, Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA@ESA</span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Date: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>12/10/2016 11:38</span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F'>Subject: </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>B20.0-Y-1 / Any re-action expected</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Tom,</span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> do you need any (re)action from the WG to state that this book is going to stay as is?</span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Thanks</span> <br><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Gian Paolo</span> <br><br><img border=0 width=1187 height=125 id="_x0000_i1029" src="cid:image001.gif@01D22464.013F2250"><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>This message and any attachments are intended for the use of the addressee or addressees only.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>The unauthorised disclosure, use, dissemination or copying (either in whole or in part) of its<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>content is not permitted.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>If you received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete it from your system.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Emails can be altered and their integrity cannot be guaranteed by the sender.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Please consider the environment before printing this email.<o:p></o:p></pre></div></body></html>