[Sls-ocm] Concept book + Link budget convention
Nicolas.Perlot at dlr.de
Nicolas.Perlot at dlr.de
Wed Apr 6 07:38:57 EDT 2011
Dear Enrico,
Thanks for your reply.
1) You write: " I do not want to challenge your reasons for proposing the use of ...". Well, knowing that you are "un esperto di link budget", I am a bit disappointed.
2) You write: "it would not be a good idea if CCSDS were not to use the same terminology of ITU". I understand. So let me put it this way:
We do not modify the ITU parameters and we do not change their terminology. But **in addition to** the ITU parameters, we introduce a simple concept which at the moment I call "Rx-directivity" because I assume that the term "directivity" is defined so far only for a transmitting (radiating) antenna. This new parameter can be called differently if a more appropriate name is found.
3) About the ITU references:
I suggest to add the following item on the agenda of the OCM meeting (May 18th, Wednesday):
- discuss the relevance of ITU recommendations on optical space comms.
Regards,
Nicolas
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From: Enrico.Vassallo at esa.int [mailto:Enrico.Vassallo at esa.int]
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Subject: Fw: [Sls-ocm] Concept book + Link budget convention
Dear Nicolas,
I do not want to challenge your reasons for proposing the use of directivity instead of gain, and the relevant link terminology.
However, I would like to point out that other bodies like the ITU do use gain and free-space loss also for optical links. In my opinion, it would not be a good idea if CCSDS were not to use the same terminology of ITU. We have always tried to be consistent with ITU in the RFM WG.
Please check recommendations ITU-R SA.1742 and SA.1805 on 238 THz and 354/366 THz communications. For ITU copyright reasons, I cannot forward them. I trust you can get them from DLR frequency management office.
Regards, Enrico
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28/03/2011 14:52
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Fw: [Sls-ocm] Concept book + Link budget convention
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per te che sei un esperto di link budget
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[Sls-ocm] Concept book + Link budget convention
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Dear Lasercom People,
1) Regarding the last version of our "concept book" that I provided in February, I did not receive the feedback that I had wished from ESA, NASA, CNES. However I received some comments, so I uploaded a new version on CWE with the proposed changes highlighted in yellow:
http://cwe.ccsds.org/sls/docs/SLS-OCM/Draft%20Documents/OCM_ConceptBook_Draft_20110325.doc
2) I'd like to propose a convention for link budget calculation/display in our field of free-space optics. Please read the attached document (3 pages), be open-minded and let me know what you think.
Regards,
Nicolas Perlot
Chair of SIG OCM
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From: Perlot, Nicolas
Sent: Dienstag, 15. Februar 2011 13:52
To: 'sls-com at mailman.ccsds.org'
Subject: Spring meeting in Berlin and Inputs for Concept Book
Dear Lasercom people,
* CCSDS Spring meeting in Berlin is approaching (May 16th- 20th). So far, limited info is available:
http://public.ccsds.org/meetings/DispForm.aspx?ID=101
* About our Concept (White) Book:
* A new version of our Concept Paper is available at http://cwe.ccsds.org/sls/docs/SLS-OCM/Draft%20Documents/OCM_ConceptBook_Draft_20110211.doc
Changes were made according to point 7)c. of the last-meeting minutes. Also, propositions were made according to point 7)e. on the following sections:
§ 3.3. Inappropriate technical solutions
§ 3.4. Possible working areas within space laser communications
* So far, I have received no inputs from ESA, NASA or CNES. In addition to the new sections §3.3 and §3.4 where suggestions would be appreciated, several sections have been identified where agencies shall provide their views. Please return the document with your respective inputs by March 18th (one month time):
* NASA: pls, review and complete
§ 4.2.2
§ 4.3.1
§ 4.3.2
§ 4.3.3
* ESA: pls, review and complete
§ 4.2.1.1
§ 4.2.1.2
§ 4.2.1.4
§ 4.3.1
§ 4.3.2
§ 4.3.4
* CNES: pls, review and complete
§ 4.2.3.1
§ 4.2.3.2
* I also recall the action items on NASA/JPL from our Spring 2011 meeting:
* Describe figures and tables in §7.4 and §7.5 of the Concept Book.
Best regards,
Nicolas Perlot
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Nicolas Perlot, Ph.D.
Digital Networks Section,
Optical Communications Group
German Aerospace Center (DLR) phone: ++49/8153/281836
Institute of Communications and Navigation fax: ++49/8153/282844
Oberpfaffenhofen, P.O. Box 11 16 email: nicolas.perlot at dlr.de<mailto:nicolas.perlot at dlr.de>
82234 Wessling, Germany http://www.dlr.de/KN/KN-DN/
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