[SLS-CC] Alignment to 401.0-B for DVB-S2X and SCCC-X orange books and for pink sheets to SCCC and DVB-S2

Wed Jun 2 10:07:26 UTC 2021

Dear all,

I enclose the modified version of the S2X OB with the agreed text changes.

Regards

Clément

De : Andrea Modenini (external) <Andrea.Modenini at esa.int>
Envoyé : lundi 31 mai 2021 14:46
À : Enrico.Vassallo at esa.int
Cc : Dudal Clement <Clement.Dudal at cnes.fr>; Space Link Coding & Synchronization Working Group <sls-cc at mailman.ccsds.org>; Thomas Gannett <thomas.gannett at tgannett.net>
Objet : Re: [SLS-CC] Alignment to 401.0-B for DVB-S2X and SCCC-X orange books and for pink sheets to SCCC and DVB-S2

Dear all,
 thanks Enrico for spotting it.

@Clement, yes, please, if you could update the DVB-S2X OB accordingly, as we have done in the SCCC BB.
Namely, I suggest to have sentences as in the following sections of the attachment:

-Section 1: "as long as compliance to CCSDS recommendations for Radio Frequency modulations in [4] is ensured."
-Section 2.1: "This Recommended Standard covers the functions of both the Synchronization and Channel Coding Sublayer and the Physical Layer, the latter for what concerns the modulation schemes. CCSDS 401.0-B [4] covers additional features of the Physical Layer like frequency bands, polarizations, etc. that are not described or referenced here."

Feel free to place and adjust them as needed, the important is that the reader is aware that 401 BB shall be taken into account.
Then, please send back to all us, that we go ahead for the AD resolution.

Differently, for the DVB-S2 BB, we can handle the technical corrigendum as part of the Agency Review.

Finally, for SCCC-X, I will provide soon a revised version with the technical corrigendum (AI on me for next two weeks).

Andrea

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From:        Enrico.Vassallo at esa.int<mailto:Enrico.Vassallo at esa.int>
To:        "Dudal Clement" <Clement.Dudal at cnes.fr<mailto:Clement.Dudal at cnes.fr>>
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Date:        31-05-21 11:41
Subject:        Re: [SLS-CC] Alignment to 401.0-B for DVB-S2X and SCCC-X orange books and for pink sheets to SCCC and DVB-S2
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Thanks Clement.

Unfortunately, I meant another statement that should also be consistent in both.

Cheers, Enrico

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Date:        31/05/21 11:39
Subject:        RE: [SLS-CC] Alignment to 401.0-B for DVB-S2X and SCCC-X orange books and for pink sheets to SCCC and DVB-S2
________________________________

Dear all,

I think the SCCC(-X) and DVB-S2(X) Blue (Orange) Books should be consistent regarding this reference to 401.0-B.

I agree to update the S2(X) books in that sense.

Kind regards

Clément

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Objet : [SLS-CC] Alignment to 401.0-B for DVB-S2X and SCCC-X orange books and for pink sheets to SCCC and DVB-S2

Thank you, Enrico.

Gilles and I are still performing the last check before issuing the relevant Area Resolution.
CESG and CMC poll will then start later also depenging on Tom's queue.

The DVB-S2X sentence you refer to is in section 1.2 PURPOSE (see snapshot)

and you propose to amend it according to a sentence we have in the SCCC (proposed) pink sheets section 2.1 ARCHITECTURE (see second snapshot)

Before a final conclusion is reached I want to remark that
1) the pink sheets for DVB-S2 ( https://public.ccsds.org/Lists/CCSDS%201313P11/131x3p11.pdf ) misses a similar statement
2) the published of SCCCX (  https://public.ccsds.org/Pubs/131x21o1.pdf ) also misses any reference to 401.0-B and theferore also a similar statement

Having said this, I have the following questions (to everybody):
a) should a RID to DVB-S2 pink sheets request a statement similar to the one in SCCC (proposed) pink sheets to refer to 401.0-B?
b) should DVB-S2X add a statement similar to the one in SCCC (proposed) pink sheets to refer to 401.0-B?
c) should SCCC-X add [e.g. via Editorial Corrigendum] a statement similar to the one in SCCC (proposed) pink sheets to refer to 401.0-B?

Thank you all for any opinion (and sorry for increasing the entropy :o)

Gian Paolo

PS Since SCCC-X is now published at https://public.ccsds.org/Pubs/131x21o1.pdf , I also updated the strategic plan for this.
Andrea, Ken, can you please check the strategic plan at https://cwe.ccsds.org/fm/sp/Lists/SLSLinks/AllItems.aspx ?

From:        Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA
To:        Andrea Modenini/estec/ESA at ESA
Cc:        "Lee, Dennis K (332G)" <Dennis.K.Lee at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:Dennis.K.Lee at jpl.nasa.gov>>, Gian Paolo Calzolari/esoc/ESA at ESA, "Moury Gilles" <Gilles.Moury at cnes.fr<mailto:Gilles.Moury at cnes.fr>>, "Ken Andrews" <Kenneth.S.Andrews at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:Kenneth.S.Andrews at jpl.nasa.gov>>, "Space Link Coding & Synchronization Working Group" <sls-cc at mailman.ccsds.org<mailto:sls-cc at mailman.ccsds.org>>, "Thomas Gannett" <thomas.gannett at tgannett.net<mailto:thomas.gannett at tgannett.net>>
Date:        31-05-21 10:44
Subject:        Re: [SLS-CC] Spring 2021 resolutions concerning CCSDS 13.2-B, 131.0-B, and 131.6-O

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Dear Andrea,

concerning the DVB-S2X OB, I noted that there is a sentence going like

and to recommend options of the DVB-S2(X) standard suited to high data rate transmission applications, such as Earth Exploration Satellite Services (EESS) payload telemetry, ground-to-space and space-to-space applications (Space Research Services SRS, inter-satellite links

I think it should be amended by the text you proposed for the SCCC liberal approach "....providing it is in line with 401" or similar.

I leave this up to you to get the agreement by CNES before resubmission otherwise I would have to send my comment via the ESA representative at CMC (or CESG, depending on the path for this book).

Sorry for being late but this book was not presented again as logical and I did not remember this sentence,

Enrico

From:        Andrea Modenini/estec/ESA
To:        "Space Link Coding & Synchronization Working Group" <sls-cc at mailman.ccsds.org<mailto:sls-cc at mailman.ccsds.org>>
Cc:        Enrico Vassallo/esoc/ESA at ESA, "Lee, Dennis K (332G)" <Dennis.K.Lee at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:Dennis.K.Lee at jpl.nasa.gov>>, "Ken Andrews" <Kenneth.S.Andrews at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:Kenneth.S.Andrews at jpl.nasa.gov>>, Gian Paolo Calzolari/esoc/ESA at ESA, "Moury Gilles" <Gilles.Moury at cnes.fr<mailto:Gilles.Moury at cnes.fr>>, "Thomas Gannett" <thomas.gannett at tgannett.net<mailto:thomas.gannett at tgannett.net>>
Date:        29/05/21 14:04
Subject:        [SLS-CC] Spring 2021 resolutions concerning CCSDS 13.2-B, 131.0-B, and 131.6-O

________________________________

Dear all,
by means of this email I formalise the C&S WG resolutions that we had during Spring meeting 2021.

Namely:
-Start agency review of CCSDS 131.2 in attachment (agreed with RFM WG during joint meeting)
-Start agency review of CCSDS 131.0 as provided in the email sent by Ken Andrews to the WG on 28-05-21 22:06 (CEST)
-To resubmit 131.6-O-1 (in attachment) as is for publication (in view of the Record of consensus and implementation of the liberal approach).

I kindly ask SLS AD to raise the related Area resolutions.

Kind Regards

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