[Sis-dtn] RE: DTPC RID against BP-for-CCSDS

Fri Oct 17 14:08:16 UTC 2014

Keith,

Ignore me.

Lee

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Subject: [Sis-dtn] RE: DTPC RID against BP-for-CCSDS

Keith,

Will we be collecting the applications in a single book?

Lee

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Subject: Re: DTPC RID against BP-for-CCSDS

Dear Keith,

fine for me. I have been assuming that there are some practical reasons to have it in the BP book and I am happy to hear that there is also an implementation in DTN2.

Regards,
Felix
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Date:        17/10/2014 15:26
Subject:        DTPC RID against BP-for-CCSDS
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Felix,

First, thanks very much for your review and RIDS on the BP-for-CCSDS book.  I think they've improved the book's overall quality.

Regarding your RID against the Delay-Tolerant Payload Conditioning Specification:
I am wondering if  "Annex E Delay-Tolerant Payload Conditioning Specification" should not be a separate document. For me it is a specific way (an "application service") of how to apply BP and does not need to be part of the CCSDS BP Standard. Also, I am not sure about the maturity of that protocol (Has it been tested with two independent implementations?). So, it might be better to separate it (maybe as a Magenta Book) and have "independent lifecycles".

I think the WG's current leaning is to reject the RID and keep the DTPC annex in the book.  I would concur that in a perfect world it would be split off as a separate book, but as I recall the capability was strongly desired and there was some concern about '# of books explosion' and the agency review resources that would be needed if it were done separately.  Also, removing the annex now would require another agency review.

There are two implementations of DTPC (ION and DTN2), and since it's a normative part of the book it WILL be interoperability tested before the book goes Blue.

Given the above, I think the WG would like to reject the RID and keep DTPC in the current book.  Would you be able to concur with this?

                        Best Regards,

                                    --keith

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