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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Keith,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ignore me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> sis-dtn-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org [mailto:sis-dtn-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pitts, Robert L. (MSFC-EO50)[HOSC SERVICES CONTRACT]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 17, 2014 9:07 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Felix.Flentge@esa.int; Scott, Keith L.<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Chris Taylor (chris.taylor@esa.int); sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Sis-dtn] RE: DTPC RID against BP-for-CCSDS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Keith,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Will we be collecting the applications in a single book?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:Felix.Flentge@esa.int">Felix.Flentge@esa.int</a> [<a href="mailto:Felix.Flentge@esa.int">mailto:Felix.Flentge@esa.int</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 17, 2014 9:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Scott, Keith L.<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Chris Taylor (<a href="mailto:chris.taylor@esa.int">chris.taylor@esa.int</a>); Pitts, Robert L. (MSFC-EO50)[HOSC SERVICES CONTRACT];
<a href="mailto:sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org">sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: DTPC RID against BP-for-CCSDS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Dear Keith,</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">fine for me. I have been assuming that there are some practical reasons to have it in the BP book and I am happy to hear that there is also an implementation in DTN2.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Regards,<br>
Felix</span> <br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">-- <br>
Dr. Felix Flentge<br>
ESA/ESOC - European Space Agency / European Space Operations Centre<br>
Human Spaceflight and Operations, Ground Segment Engineering Department, HSO-GIB<br>
ESA/ESOC, Robert-Bosch-Strasse 5, D-64293 Darmstadt, Germany<br>
Tel: +49 6151 90 3173<br>
e-mail: <a href="mailto:Felix.Flentge@esa.int">Felix.Flentge@esa.int</a></span> <br>
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">From: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">"Scott, Keith L." <<a href="mailto:kscott@mitre.org">kscott@mitre.org</a>></span>
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">To: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">"<a href="mailto:felix.flentge@esa.int">felix.flentge@esa.int</a>" <<a href="mailto:felix.flentge@esa.int">felix.flentge@esa.int</a>>,
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">Cc: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">"Chris Taylor (<a href="mailto:chris.taylor@esa.int">chris.taylor@esa.int</a>)" <<a href="mailto:chris.taylor@esa.int">chris.taylor@esa.int</a>>,
"Pitts, Robert L. (MSFC-EO50)[HOSC SERVICES CONTRACT]" <<a href="mailto:robert.l.pitts@nasa.gov">robert.l.pitts@nasa.gov</a>>, "<a href="mailto:sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org">sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org">sis-dtn@mailman.ccsds.org</a>></span>
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">Date: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">17/10/2014 15:26</span>
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">Subject: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">DTPC RID against BP-for-CCSDS</span>
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<span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Felix,</span> <br>
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<span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">First, thanks very much for your review and RIDS on the BP-for-CCSDS book. I think they’ve improved the book’s overall quality.</span>
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<span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span> <br>
<span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span> <br>
<span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Regarding your RID against the Delay-Tolerant Payload Conditioning Specification:</span>
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<span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I am wondering if "Annex E Delay-Tolerant Payload Conditioning Specification" should not be a separate document. For me it is a specific way (an “application service”) of how to apply BP and
does not need to be part of the CCSDS BP Standard. Also, I am not sure about the maturity of that protocol (Has it been tested with two independent implementations?). So, it might be better to separate it (maybe as a Magenta Book) and have "independent lifecycles".</span>
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<span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span> <br>
<span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span> <br>
<span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I think the WG’s current leaning is to reject the RID and keep the DTPC annex in the book. I would concur that in a perfect world it would be split off as a separate book, but as I recall the
capability was strongly desired and there was some concern about ‘# of books explosion’ and the agency review resources that would be needed if it were done separately. Also, removing the annex now would require another agency review.</span>
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<span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">There are two implementations of DTPC (ION and DTN2), and since it’s a normative part of the book it WILL be interoperability tested before the book goes Blue.</span>
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<span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Given the above, I think the WG would like to reject the RID and keep DTPC in the current book. Would you be able to concur with this?</span>
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<span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Best Regards,</span>
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