[Sea-d-dor] [EXTERNAL] Re: Proposed approach re coordination of DDOR and CSSM standards

Tue Oct 18 15:51:27 UTC 2022

Hi Erik,

Thanks for your email.

There will be two attendees from the DDOR WG, so meeting at the 
WE-Discover room is fine.

Regards,

        Javier

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European Space Agency ESA-ESOC 
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From:   "Barkley, Erik J (US 3970)" <erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov>
To:     "EXTERNAL-De Vicente Olmedo, Javier (9110-Affiliate)" 
<javier.devicente at esa.int>
Cc:     "Volk, Christopher P (US 335D)" <christopher.p.volk at jpl.nasa.gov>, 
"Holger.Dreihahn at esa.int" <Holger.Dreihahn at esa.int>, "Shames, Peter M (US 
312B)" <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>, "DDOR WG" 
<sea-d-dor at mailman.ccsds.org>, "CCSDS Service Mgmt WG" 
<smwg at mailman.ccsds.org>
Date:   18/10/2022 16:58
Subject:        RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Proposed approach re coordination of 
DDOR and CSSM standards

Hello Javier,

The CSSM WG is meeting in the WE-Discover room. There are 10 of us in our 
room and we have 3 spare chairs in the room.  Do you think the three spare 
chairs is enough and if so, should we plan on meeting at the WE-Discover 
room tomorrow morning? 

Best regards,
-Erik 

From: Javier.DeVicente at esa.int <Javier.DeVicente at esa.int> 
Sent: Friday, September 2, 2022 8:41
To: Barkley, Erik J (US 3970) <erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov>
Cc: Volk, Christopher P (US 335D) <christopher.p.volk at jpl.nasa.gov>; 
Holger.Dreihahn at esa.int; Shames, Peter M (US 312B) 
<peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>; DDOR WG <sea-d-dor at mailman.ccsds.org>; 
CCSDS Service Mgmt WG <smwg at mailman.ccsds.org>
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Proposed approach re coordination of DDOR and 
CSSM standards

Hi Erik, 

Perfect, Wednesday Oct19th, 11:00-12:00. 

Best Regards, 

        Javier 

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Javier de Vicente
European Space Agency ESA-ESOC 
Robert Bosch Str. 5
D-64293 Darmstadt
Tel. +49 (0)6151 902253
Fax. +49 (0)6151 903046
www.esa.int/esoc
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From:        "Barkley, Erik J (US 3970)" <erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov> 
To:        "Javier.DeVicente at esa.int" <Javier.DeVicente at esa.int> 
Cc:        "Volk, Christopher P (US 335D)" <
christopher.p.volk at jpl.nasa.gov>, "Holger.Dreihahn at esa.int" <
Holger.Dreihahn at esa.int>, "Shames, Peter M (US 312B)" <
peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>, "DDOR WG" <sea-d-dor at mailman.ccsds.org>, 
"CCSDS Service Mgmt WG" <smwg at mailman.ccsds.org> 
Date:        29/08/2022 20:42 
Subject:        RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Proposed approach re coordination of 
DDOR and CSSM standards 

Hello Javier,

Very good.  How about we plan for perhaps the later half of Wednesday 
morning of the meetings week?  Assuming the traditional mid-morning break, 
perhaps we could schedule for 11:00 – 12:00 or so on that day? 

Best regards,
-Erik 

From: Javier.DeVicente at esa.int <Javier.DeVicente at esa.int> 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2022 7:42
To: Barkley, Erik J (US 3970) <erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov>
Cc: Volk, Christopher P (US 335D) <christopher.p.volk at jpl.nasa.gov>; 
Holger.Dreihahn at esa.int; Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <
peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>; DDOR WG <sea-d-dor at mailman.ccsds.org>; CCSDS 
Service Mgmt WG <smwg at mailman.ccsds.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Proposed approach re coordination of DDOR and CSSM 
standards

Hi Erik, 

Many thanks for your email. 

The DDOR WG will meet in person and also had plans to meet with your WG, 
so your email comes at the right time. 

Wednesday is fine. I still need to work on the DDOR WG's agenda, so feel 
free to pick the time. 

Best Regards, 

       Javier 

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Javier de Vicente
European Space Agency ESA-ESOC 
Robert Bosch Str. 5
D-64293 Darmstadt
Tel. +49 (0)6151 902253
Fax. +49 (0)6151 903046
www.esa.int/esoc
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From:        "Barkley, Erik J (US 3970)" <erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov> 
To:        "javier.devicente at esa.int" <javier.devicente at esa.int>, "Volk, 
Christopher P (US 335D)" <christopher.p.volk at jpl.nasa.gov> 
Cc:        "DDOR WG" <sea-d-dor at mailman.ccsds.org>, "CCSDS Service Mgmt 
WG" <smwg at mailman.ccsds.org>, "Shames, Peter M (US 312B)" <
peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>, "Holger.Dreihahn at esa.int" <
Holger.Dreihahn at esa.int> 
Date:        23/08/2022 02:22 
Subject:        Proposed approach re coordination of DDOR and CSSM 
standards 

Dear DDOR WG Chairs,

With the CCSDS fall 2022 meetings be arranged to have actual face-to-face 
meetings, it strikes me that we may have an opportunity for a joint 
session with regard to the CSS Area CSSM WG.  When Jim Border was the 
chair of the DDOR WG we had some preliminary sessions on this, but that 
came to a halt during the pandemic mostly due to difficulties for 
coordinating the CSSM WG virtual meetings across many time zone and then 
arranging/coordinating inter-working group joint meetings on top of that.  
That is not to say that the CSSM WG ignored inter WG considerations, such 
as when it comes to looking at DDOR activities with regard to service 
management standards. The CSSM WG continued to work on this as time 
allowed and the attached outlines an approach for coordinating DDOR 
standard and CSSM WG standards where they have overlapping concerns.

The fundamental consideration as I see it is to develop DDOR standards 
that can operate outside of the context of standardized service management 
but then as standardized service management is developed and adopted, also 
operate inside the context of standardized service management.  At the 
same time, the CSSM WG is not at all expert re DDOR observations and 
processing, and would prefer not to invent things outside of its area of 
expertise. Do you think the DDOR WG will be meeting in person?  If so, 
perhaps we could arrange for having a joint session on Wednesday of the 
technical meetings week?

Best regards,

Erik Barkley
Cross Support Services Area Director
Consultative Committee for Space Data Systems
www.ccsds.org

+1 818.393.4972

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