<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Hi Erik,</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Thanks for your
email.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">There will be
two attendees from the DDOR WG, so meeting at the WE-Discover room is fine.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Regards,</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">   
    Javier</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">--------------------------------------------------------<br>
Javier de Vicente<br>
European Space Agency ESA-ESOC <br>
Robert Bosch Str. 5<br>
D-64293 Darmstadt<br>
Tel. +49 (0)6151 902253<br>
Fax. +49 (0)6151 903046<br>
</span><a href=www.esa.int/esoc><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">www.esa.int/esoc</span></a><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif"><br>
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<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">From:
       </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Barkley,
Erik J (US 3970)" <erik.j.barkley@jpl.nasa.gov></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">To:
       </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"EXTERNAL-De
Vicente Olmedo, Javier (9110-Affiliate)" <javier.devicente@esa.int></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Cc:
       </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Volk,
Christopher P (US 335D)" <christopher.p.volk@jpl.nasa.gov>,
"Holger.Dreihahn@esa.int" <Holger.Dreihahn@esa.int>, "Shames,
Peter M (US 312B)" <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov>, "DDOR
WG" <sea-d-dor@mailman.ccsds.org>, "CCSDS Service Mgmt
WG" <smwg@mailman.ccsds.org></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Date:
       </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">18/10/2022
16:58</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Subject:
       </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">RE:
[EXTERNAL] Re: Proposed approach re coordination of DDOR and CSSM standards</span>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Georgia">Hello
Javier,</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Georgia"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Georgia">The
CSSM WG is meeting in the WE-Discover room. There are 10 of us in our room
and we have 3 spare chairs in the room.  Do you think the three spare
chairs is enough and if so, should we plan on meeting at the WE-Discover
room tomorrow morning?   </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Georgia"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Georgia">Best
regards,</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Georgia">-Erik
</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Georgia"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>From:</b>
Javier.DeVicente@esa.int <Javier.DeVicente@esa.int> <b><br>
Sent:</b> Friday, September 2, 2022 8:41<b><br>
To:</b> Barkley, Erik J (US 3970) <erik.j.barkley@jpl.nasa.gov><b><br>
Cc:</b> Volk, Christopher P (US 335D) <christopher.p.volk@jpl.nasa.gov>;
Holger.Dreihahn@esa.int; Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov>;
DDOR WG <sea-d-dor@mailman.ccsds.org>; CCSDS Service Mgmt WG <smwg@mailman.ccsds.org><b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Proposed approach re coordination of DDOR
and CSSM standards</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">Hi
Erik,</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> <br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Perfect, Wednesday Oct19th, 11:00-12:00.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Best Regards,</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
        Javier</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
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Javier de Vicente<br>
European Space Agency ESA-ESOC <br>
Robert Bosch Str. 5<br>
D-64293 Darmstadt<br>
Tel. +49 (0)6151 902253<br>
Fax. +49 (0)6151 903046</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u><br>
</u></span><a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__http:/www.esa.int/esoc__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!fBytU7C7rqC3HQWsuDeAJQKMdgJwYeH36si37qNvKdy5WME-B9UEBL0fQbwj_mr4TrkCbzvW0A$"><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>www.esa.int/esoc</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
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</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
From:        </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Barkley,
Erik J (US 3970)" <</span><a href=mailto:erik.j.barkley@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>erik.j.barkley@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
To:        </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"</span><a href=mailto:Javier.DeVicente@esa.int><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>Javier.DeVicente@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"
<</span><a href=mailto:Javier.DeVicente@esa.int><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>Javier.DeVicente@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Cc:        </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Volk,
Christopher P (US 335D)" <</span><a href=mailto:christopher.p.volk@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>christopher.p.volk@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,
"</span><a href=mailto:Holger.Dreihahn@esa.int><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>Holger.Dreihahn@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"
<</span><a href=mailto:Holger.Dreihahn@esa.int><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>Holger.Dreihahn@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,
"Shames, Peter M (US 312B)" <</span><a href=mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,
"DDOR WG" <</span><a href="mailto:sea-d-dor@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>sea-d-dor@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,
"CCSDS Service Mgmt WG" <</span><a href=mailto:smwg@mailman.ccsds.org><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>smwg@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Date:        </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">29/08/2022
20:42</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Subject:        </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">RE:
[EXTERNAL] Re: Proposed approach re coordination of DDOR and CSSM standards</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span></p>
<div align=center>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:240px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia">Hello
Javier,</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia">Very
good.  How about we plan for perhaps the later half of Wednesday morning
of the meetings week?  Assuming the traditional mid-morning break,
perhaps we could schedule for 11:00 – 12:00 or so on that day?  </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia">Best
regards,</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia">-Erik
</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"><b>From:</b>
</span><a href=mailto:Javier.DeVicente@esa.int><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:blue"><u>Javier.DeVicente@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:12pt">
<</span><a href=mailto:Javier.DeVicente@esa.int><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:blue"><u>Javier.DeVicente@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:12pt">>
<b><br>
Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 24, 2022 7:42<b><br>
To:</b> Barkley, Erik J (US 3970) <</span><a href=mailto:erik.j.barkley@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:blue"><u>erik.j.barkley@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:12pt">><b><br>
Cc:</b> Volk, Christopher P (US 335D) <</span><a href=mailto:christopher.p.volk@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:blue"><u>christopher.p.volk@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:12pt">>;
</span><a href=mailto:Holger.Dreihahn@esa.int><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:blue"><u>Holger.Dreihahn@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:12pt">;
Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <</span><a href=mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:blue"><u>peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:12pt">>;
DDOR WG <</span><a href="mailto:sea-d-dor@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:blue"><u>sea-d-dor@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:12pt">>;
CCSDS Service Mgmt WG <</span><a href=mailto:smwg@mailman.ccsds.org><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:blue"><u>smwg@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:12pt">><b><br>
Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: Proposed approach re coordination of DDOR and
CSSM standards</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">Hi
Erik,</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
Many thanks for your email. <br>
<br>
The DDOR WG will meet in person and also had plans to meet with your WG,
so your email comes at the right time.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
Wednesday is fine. I still need to work on the DDOR WG's agenda, so feel
free to pick the time.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
Best Regards,</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
       Javier</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
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Javier de Vicente<br>
European Space Agency ESA-ESOC <br>
Robert Bosch Str. 5<br>
D-64293 Darmstadt<br>
Tel. +49 (0)6151 902253<br>
Fax. +49 (0)6151 903046</span><span style=" font-size:12pt;color:blue"><u><br>
</u></span><a href="https://urldefense.us/v3/__http:/www.esa.int/esoc__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!fs-kOIMjDXUPO83EwhCPURRqPYPSDd9bPJJ6yaBpkA-qY35WZpGoFjasJ_ckDEEu9FbU04j_xw$"><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>www.esa.int/esoc</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
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From:        </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Barkley,
Erik J (US 3970)" <</span><a href=mailto:erik.j.barkley@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>erik.j.barkley@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">></span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
To:        </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"</span><a href=mailto:javier.devicente@esa.int><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>javier.devicente@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"
<</span><a href=mailto:javier.devicente@esa.int><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>javier.devicente@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,
"Volk, Christopher P (US 335D)" <</span><a href=mailto:christopher.p.volk@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>christopher.p.volk@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">></span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Cc:        </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"DDOR
WG" <</span><a href="mailto:sea-d-dor@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>sea-d-dor@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,
"CCSDS Service Mgmt WG" <</span><a href=mailto:smwg@mailman.ccsds.org><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>smwg@mailman.ccsds.org</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,
"Shames, Peter M (US 312B)" <</span><a href=mailto:peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">>,
"</span><a href=mailto:Holger.Dreihahn@esa.int><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>Holger.Dreihahn@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"
<</span><a href=mailto:Holger.Dreihahn@esa.int><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>Holger.Dreihahn@esa.int</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">></span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Date:        </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">23/08/2022
02:22</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Subject:        </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">Proposed
approach re coordination of DDOR and CSSM standards</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span></p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia">Dear
DDOR WG Chairs,</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia">With
the CCSDS fall 2022 meetings be arranged to have actual face-to-face meetings,
it strikes me that we may have an opportunity for a joint session with
regard to the CSS Area CSSM WG.  When Jim Border was the chair of
the DDOR WG we had some preliminary sessions on this, but that came to
a halt during the pandemic mostly due to difficulties for coordinating
the CSSM WG virtual meetings across many time zone and then arranging/coordinating
inter-working group joint meetings on top of that.   That is not to
say that the CSSM WG ignored inter WG considerations, such as when it comes
to looking at DDOR activities with regard to service management standards.
The CSSM WG continued to work on this as time allowed and the attached
outlines an approach for coordinating DDOR standard and CSSM WG standards
where they have overlapping concerns.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Georgia">The
fundamental consideration as I see it is to develop DDOR standards that
can operate outside of the context of standardized service management but
then as standardized service management is developed and adopted, also
operate inside the context of standardized service management.  At
the same time, the CSSM WG is not at all expert re DDOR observations and
processing, and would prefer not to invent things outside of its area of
expertise. Do you think the DDOR WG will be meeting in person?  If
so, perhaps we could arrange for having a joint session on Wednesday of
the technical meetings week?</span></p>
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