[Moims-dai] My latest attempt at OAIS Section 6 (SC#135)

Tue Oct 9 13:59:15 UTC 2018

I raised the issue of the OO-IO document because anyone seeking further
information about OO-IO will look for the document. By incorporating OO-IO
terminology into ISO 14721 we are tacitly endorsing OO-IO. I wanted to make
sure the members of the WG are comfortable with that.

I have attached a copy of John's document with a few comments.

Mark Conrad
NARA Information Services
Systems Engineering Division (IT)
The National Archives and Records Administration
Erma Ora Byrd Conference and Learning Center
Building 494, Room 225
610 State Route 956
Rocket Center, WV  26726

Phone: 304-726-7820
Fax: 304-726-7802
Email: mark.conrad at nara.gov

On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 10:17 AM Eld Zierau <elzi at kb.dk> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I am a bit concerned that the suggestion from Mark below can be read as
> putting this paper into the discussion tomorrow. I do of course not mind
> anyone reading the paper,* but *I see no reason for use of valuable time
> on OAIS meetings by start of a discussion of how a 2014 paper can be
> read/interpreted for the following reasons:
>
> ·       There is nothing in the current text that suggests that it is
> only bit preservation, - the text taken out was part of an example
>
> ·       The paper will not be referred to directly by the OAIS reference
> model, since I believe it is an error that the references are still in the
> draft (as said in my previous mail)
> (as I recall, it was decided that these should be excluded from the
> document itself - and only will be referred to as “Further and more
> detailed *examples* can be found in [D13] and [D14]” in some surrounding
> documentation as for the roadmap section)
>
>
>
> Not to start/continue the discussion here, but let me as author/coauthor
> of the referred documents point out that the message meant to be expressed
> is: that it is useful for bit preservation but NOT only for bit
> preservation. The OO-IO model is based on the IR-BR model which covers bit
> preservation – but the OO-IO model is a result of the international
> research project (described in the papers) which found that there was a
> need for a more general approach covering other areas as well.
>
>
>
> Best regards, Eld
>
>
>
> *From:* MOIMS-DAI <moims-dai-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org> *On Behalf Of *Mark
> Conrad
> *Sent:* Friday, October 5, 2018 10:54 PM
> *To:* MOIMS-Data Archive Ingestion <moims-dai at mailman.ccsds.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Moims-dai] My latest attempt at OAIS Section 6 (SC#135)
>
>
>
> " I also removed some of the discussion of Inner OAIS only need to worry
> about bit preservation.  Overall encouraging the idea that any OAIS only
> needs to worry about bit preservation is contrary to what we are trying to
> do with the OAIS standard.  Too many “archives” already take that view."
>
>
>
> Discussions of bit repositories and bit preservation are found throughout
> the OO-IO paper. I believe that, along with the varying
> definitions/examples of inner OAISes throughout the OO-IO document, are
> compelling reasons why we should not mention OO-IO in ISO 14721. If you
> haven't read it recently, I encourage you to read the OO-IO document before
> our discussion on Tuesday.
>
>
> Mark Conrad
> NARA Information Services
>
> Systems Engineering Division (IT)
> The National Archives and Records Administration
> Erma Ora Byrd Conference and Learning Center
> Building 494, Room 225
> 610 State Route 956
> Rocket Center, WV  26726
>
> Phone: 304-726-7820
> Fax: 304-726-7802
> Email: mark.conrad at nara.gov
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 3:15 PM John Garrett <garrett at his.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I’ve attached my latest attempt for obtaining consensus for Section 6.
>
>
>
> We will discuss this at the next MOIMS-DAI telecon on Tuesday.  If you are
> interested in this topic and if possible, please plan to join us that day.
> Also if possible you can send comments and suggested updates before the
> telecon.
>
>
>
> This is the last outstanding Suggested Change for this round of OAIS
> update.  Once completed, we will generate a complete new draft to send
> around for Working Group review and comment and then submit for balloting
> by CCSDS and ISO.
>
>
>
> The face-to-face meeting for our Working Group at the CCSDS technical
> meeting is just over a week away and we would like to discuss the final
> draft during that meeting.
>
>
>
>
>
> In this version of Section 6, I’ve added back another of the Outer OAIS –
> Inner OAIS examples.  The examples appear as an example of the general
> Distributed Archive style discussed in Section 6.1.6.  I also removed some
> of the discussion of Inner OAIS only need to worry about bit preservation.
> Overall encouraging the idea that any OAIS only needs to worry about bit
> preservation is contrary to what we are trying to do with the OAIS
> standard.  Too many “archives” already take that view.  Also, I’ve moved
> OAIS Section 6.2 Management issues for Federated Archives to the end of
> Section 6.1.3 Federated Archives
>
>
>
> Peace and joy,
>
> -JOhn
>
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