[Moims-dai] [Secretariat] Change in URLs for documents

David Giaretta david at giaretta.org
Tue Sep 6 18:18:26 UTC 2016

I understand  – my sympathy.




From: Oliver, Brian (HQ-CG000)[Arctic Slope Technical Services, Inc.] [mailto:brian.oliver at nasa.gov] 
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Subject: Re: [Secretariat] [Moims-dai] Change in URLs for documents




The real issue was that the old website location was implemented incorrectly…sort of a “hack" pre se.  We had to write a lot of custom C# code, so that the new version of our Website can display the documents in a similar fashion to the old CCSDS.org <http://ccsds.org>  website.


I can’t replicate that location/capability without breaking the document library (database) where all of the CCSDS Standards are housed.


In the meantime, we are looking to see if it is possible to setup an alias to that directory.   If not, then we will have to go with the plan we have noted below.







On Sep 6, 2016, at 1:58 PM, David Giaretta <david at giaretta.org <mailto:david at giaretta.org> > wrote:


Hi Brian


I can appreciate your difficulties but I am concerned by the “almost identical”. Since SharePoint is quite widely used for websites and URL stability is pretty important to huge numbers of people, including CCSDS, I am surprised that it cannot be configured to keep the URLs unchanged. Sorry to ask the obvious question but did you ask Microsoft Sharepoint support?




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The  <http://ccsds.org/> CCSDS.org website was redeveloped from scratch in SharePoint 2013, and is now hosted on new servers.

We attempted to develop the new CCSDS.org <http://ccsds.org>  website, so that the webpage URLs are almost identical to the old site.


But, there was no way to have the same location for the CCSDS publications.  The features of SharePoint 2003 (old site) vs 2013 (new site) has changed so much, and there was no way to replicate the back-end structure in the same format.

We should be able to plug some redirects in for the documents.  Other than 652x0m2.pdf what other documents require redirects?


As for the robots.txt, will discuss with the Server Administrator. 






On Sep 6, 2016, at 11:12 AM, David Giaretta < <mailto:david at giaretta.org> david at giaretta.org> wrote:


Dear Secretariat


A colleague pointed out to me that the URLs for documents on the website have recently been changed. For example, the link to OAIS – the most downloaded CCSDS document, and one to which a huge number of published papers point – has been changed!


It used to be  <http://public.ccsds.org/publications/archive/652x0m2.pdf> http://public.ccsds.org/publications/archive/652x0m2.pdf but it is now  <https://public.ccsds.org/Pubs/650x0m2.pdf> https://public.ccsds.org/Pubs/650x0m2.pdf


Please at least put in a re-direct so that “publications/archive” goes to “Pubs” so the millions of references will continue to work – or else move things back to the way they were because there are so many references to all the CCSDS documents.


This is especially critical right now for OAIS because we have just sent out the “old” link for the 5 year review – it makes CCSDS look incompetent.


I also note that the website has a robots.txt which can prevent harvesting of the website – it would be useful if that could also be changed because it is important that our CCSDS documents are discoverable.






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