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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I understand – my sympathy.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>..David<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose'></span><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Oliver, Brian (HQ-CG000)[Arctic Slope Technical Services, Inc.] [mailto:brian.oliver@nasa.gov] <br><b>Sent:</b> 06 September 2016 19:09<br><b>To:</b> David Giaretta <david@giaretta.org><br><b>Cc:</b> Secretariat@mailman.ccsds.org; Nestor Peccia <Nestor.Peccia@esa.int>; MOIMS-Data Archive Ingestion <moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Secretariat] [Moims-dai] Change in URLs for documents<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>David, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The real issue was that the old website location was implemented incorrectly…sort of a “hack" pre se. We had to write a lot of custom C# code, so that the new version of our Website can display the documents in a similar fashion to the old <a href="http://ccsds.org">CCSDS.org</a> website.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I can’t replicate that location/capability without breaking the document library (database) where all of the CCSDS Standards are housed.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>In the meantime, we are looking to see if it is possible to setup an alias to that directory. If not, then we will have to go with the plan we have noted below.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Brian<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sep 6, 2016, at 1:58 PM, David Giaretta <<a href="mailto:david@giaretta.org">david@giaretta.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Hi Brian</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I can appreciate your difficulties but I am concerned by the “almost identical”. Since SharePoint is quite widely used for websites and URL stability is pretty important to huge numbers of people, including CCSDS, I am surprised that it cannot be configured to keep the URLs unchanged. Sorry to ask the obvious question but did you ask Microsoft Sharepoint support?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>..David</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>MOIMS-DAI [<a href="mailto:moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">mailto:moims-dai-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Oliver, Brian (HQ-CG000)[Arctic Slope Technical Services, Inc.]<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>06 September 2016 16:50<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>David Giaretta <<a href="mailto:david@giaretta.org">david@giaretta.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Nestor Peccia <<a href="mailto:Nestor.Peccia@esa.int">Nestor.Peccia@esa.int</a>>; <a href="mailto:Secretariat@mailman.ccsds.org">Secretariat@mailman.ccsds.org</a>; MOIMS-Data Archive Ingestion <<a href="mailto:moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org">moims-dai@mailman.ccsds.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Moims-dai] [Secretariat] Change in URLs for documents<br><b>Importance:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>High</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>David,<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The <a href="http://ccsds.org/"><span style='color:purple'>CCSDS.org</span></a> website was redeveloped from scratch in SharePoint 2013, and is now hosted on new servers.<br><br>We attempted to develop the new <a href="http://ccsds.org">CCSDS.org</a> website, so that the webpage URLs are almost identical to the old site.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>But, there was no way to have the same location for the CCSDS publications. The features of SharePoint 2003 (old site) vs 2013 (new site) has changed so much, and there was no way to replicate the back-end structure in the same format.<br><br>We should be able to plug some redirects in for the documents. Other than 652x0m2.pdf what other documents require redirects?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>As for the robots.txt, will discuss with the Server Administrator. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Brian<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sep 6, 2016, at 11:12 AM, David Giaretta <<a href="mailto:david@giaretta.org"><span style='color:purple'>david@giaretta.org</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Dear Secretariat</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>A colleague pointed out to me that the URLs for documents on the website have recently been changed. For example, the link to OAIS – the most downloaded CCSDS document, and one to which a huge number of published papers point – has been changed!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>It used to be<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://public.ccsds.org/publications/archive/652x0m2.pdf"><span style='color:#954F72'>http://public.ccsds.org/publications/archive/652x0m2.pdf</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>but it is now<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="https://public.ccsds.org/Pubs/650x0m2.pdf"><span style='color:#954F72'>https://public.ccsds.org/Pubs/650x0m2.pdf</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Please at least put in a re-direct so that “publications/archive” goes to “Pubs” so the millions of references will continue to work – or else move things back to the way they were because there are so many references to all the CCSDS documents.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>This is especially critical right now for OAIS because we have just sent out the “old” link for the 5 year review – it makes CCSDS look incompetent.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I also note that the website has a robots.txt which can prevent harvesting of the website – it would be useful if that could also be changed because it is important that our CCSDS documents are discoverable.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>..David</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>_______________________________________________<br>Secretariat mailing list<br></span><a href="mailto:Secretariat@mailman.ccsds.org"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#954F72'>Secretariat@mailman.ccsds.org</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br></span><a href="https://mailman.ccsds.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/secretariat"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#954F72'>https://mailman.ccsds.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/secretariat</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>_______________________________________________<br>Secretariat mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Secretariat@mailman.ccsds.org">Secretariat@mailman.ccsds.org</a><br><a href="https://mailman.ccsds.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/secretariat">https://mailman.ccsds.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/secretariat</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>