[Moims-dai] FW: Liaison with ISO TC46/SC04
David Giaretta
david at giaretta.org
Mon Feb 8 10:44:23 UTC 2016
We received this – any thoughts?
Is anyone (Daniele?) familiar with MEDONA that is mentioned in the attached. I found an English at http://ac.els-cdn.com/S1877042814040737/1-s2.0-S1877042814040737-main.pdf?_tid=482d8f86-ce50-11e5-b5b2-00000aab0f6b <http://ac.els-cdn.com/S1877042814040737/1-s2.0-S1877042814040737-main.pdf?_tid=482d8f86-ce50-11e5-b5b2-00000aab0f6b&acdnat=1454928170_6734f9df7af964024ed8b70de9e2fd1b> &acdnat=1454928170_6734f9df7af964024ed8b70de9e2fd1b
At first glance it looks as if it more directly related to PAIS more than OAIS itself.
..David
From: Mario.Merri at esa.int [mailto:Mario.Merri at esa.int]
Sent: 08 February 2016 09:44
To: david at giaretta.org; John Garrett <garrett at his.com>
Cc: Nestor.Peccia at esa.int
Subject: Liaison with ISO TC46/SC04
Dear David and John,
Could you please let me know if you see value/interest in establishing a liaison between ISO TC20/SC13 and ISO TC46/SC04? In particular, being the common interests mainly in the area of DAI (see the attached pdf) and assuming you agree with the need for a liaison, would you be able to propose a name for this liaison (John?, assuming he is available).
Please let me know and ... good reading!
Regards,
__Mario
----- Forwarded by Mario Merri/esoc/ESA on 08/02/2016 10:27 -----
From: "Eduardo W. Bergamini" <e.w.bergamini at uol.com.br <mailto:e.w.bergamini at uol.com.br> >
To: "Mario Merri, Dr. - CCSDS CESG MOIMS AD - ESOC/ESA" <Mario.Merri at esa.int <mailto:Mario.Merri at esa.int> >
Cc: "James Afarin, Dr. - Secretary to CCSDS & CMC/CCSDS Ch. & Secr. to ISO TC20/SC13" <James.Afarin at nasa.gov <mailto:James.Afarin at nasa.gov> >, "Nestor Peccia, Dr. - Director CESG/CCSDS - ESOC/ESA" <Nestor.Peccia at esa.int <mailto:Nestor.Peccia at esa.int> >, "Nick Tongson, Mr. - AIAA / CCSDS and ISO TC20/SC13 Secretariats" <NickT at aiaa.org <mailto:NickT at aiaa.org> >
Date: 07/02/2016 17:33
Subject: Request for response.
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Dear Mario,
I hope you are fine, indeed.
At this very moment, James Afarin, in Cc., is reviewing the Minutes, Resolutions
and Action Items of the ISO TC20/SC13 meeting which was held in Darmstadt, last
November. Resulting from the discussions we had in that meeting, where you
were consulted on the subject, one Resolution and 2 associated Action Items are
being proposed for consideration, and they are described in the following lines:
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SC13-R-2015-11-4
ISO TC46/SC04 Subcommittee (on Technical interoperability) proposed a liaison to ISO TC20/SC13. E. Bergamini received a letter of proposal of liaison from Mrs. Heiskanen. The letter mentions two OBSERVERS from ISO TC46/SC04 who would serve as liaisons to ISO TC20/SC13. ISO TC20/SC13 decided that Dr. Mario Merri, Area Director MOIMS/CESG/CCSDS, present to this meeting, would be getting in contact with Dr. David Giaretta, Chairman of MOIMS Data Archive Ingestion Working Group to determine the interest from CCSDS-ISO TC20/SC13 to establish a liaison with ISO TC46/SC04 Subcommittee and, then, consider the nomination of a Liaison. Then, a letter from ISO TC20/SC13 to ISO TC46/SC04 is be sent answering to the proposal for a liaison between the two Subcommittees.
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SC13-A-2015-11-2
Request from Dr. Mario Merri, Area Director MOIMS/CESG/CCSDS, his contact with Dr. David Giaretta, Chairman of MOIMS Data Archive Ingestion Working Group to determine the possible interest from CCSDS-ISO TC20/SC13 to establish a liaison with ISO TC46/SC04 (Technical interoperability) Subcommittee. If there is such an interest, CCSDS MOIMS DAI WG should nominate a person to act as the liaison of CCSDS-ISO TC20/SC13, in this case.
Actionee: Chairman of the Subcommittee
Due Date: Before the 48th meeting in Brazil
SC13-A-2015-11-3
Upon a response from Dr. Mario Merri, the Subcommittee will address an ISO TC20/SC13 response to ISO TC46/SC04 on the interest to establish a liaison between both subcommittees.
Actionee: Chairman and Secretary
Due Date: Till the 48th meeting, in Brazil
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Also of fundamental importance, enclosed to this current message you find the
complete content of the ISO TC20/SC13 – ISO TC46/SC04 correspondence which
was exchanged so far between them. These enclosed contents are those which
motivated the related discussions we held in the last SC13 meeting, in Darmstadt.
In order to speed up the pendence we have in relation to ISO TC46/SC04
Subcommittee, I wish to ask you to get acquainted with the enclosed
correspondence and, after your evaluation with Dave Giaretta (MOIMS-DAI WG),
you may express us your joint impression that may provide us with the basis that
will orient our pending response to the inquiring Subcommittee.
>From what I could aprehend from the correspondence we received from ISO TC46/
SC04 Subcommittee, it is my personal impression that we can not ignore the
need of nominating a corresponding (MOIMS-DAI WG originated) liaison person
from our side. However, the pending response letter that James Afarin and I would,
in a 1st. opportunity, be addressing to ISO TC46/SC04 Subcommittee would,
based on what Dave Giaretta and yourself my tell us, make clear what would be,
the expected commitment that could be observed by liaison person from our side,
in the context of such a liaison work, after a common understanding is settled
between both sides, in that direction.
In view of my last manifest to them, for the time being I feel I owe a short term,
simple e-mail response to ISO TC46/SC04, which I plan to address in my 1st.
opportunity, where I will simply mention them that their kind proposal was
discussed in our last (Darmstadt) SC13 meeting and that internal actions are
being taken to send them a formal response from ISO TC20/SC13 in our 1st.
opportunity.
Thank you for your consideration to this current request. We look for your
answer in a 1st. opportunity.
Please, confirm this message. Thank you.
With my kind regards,
Eduardo Bergamini
Chairman ISO TC20/SC13 Subcommittee
ENCLOSURES: 2
Cc. James Afarin, Secretary of ISO TC20/SC13 Subcommittee
----- Message from "Eduardo W. Bergamini" <e.w.bergamini at uol.com.br <mailto:e.w.bergamini at uol.com.br> > on Sun, 1 Nov 2015 20:46:49 -0200 -----
To:
"Juha Hakala, Mr. - Chairman to ISO/TC46/SC14 Subcommittee" <juha.hakala at helsinki.fi <mailto:juha.hakala at helsinki.fi> >
cc:
"Kati Heiskanen, Mrs. - Secretary to ISO/TC 46/SC 4 -Liaison to ISO TC20/SC13" <Kati.Heiskanen at sfs.fi <mailto:Kati.Heiskanen at sfs.fi> >, <james.afarin at nasa.gov <mailto:james.afarin at nasa.gov> >
Subject:
Re:RE: Request for Establishment of a Liaison between TC 20/SC 13 (Space data and information transfer systems) and TC 46/SC 4 (Technical interoperability)
TO:
Mr. JUHA HAKALA, Chairman
ISO TC46/SC4 Subcommittee
Dear Mr. Hakala,
Also, thank you for your thoughtful message and embedded considerations.
In fact, as you can observe from my previous message, ISO TC20/SC13 already has a liaison with ISO TC46/SC4,
with the only difference that it has not been active, that we are aware of, so far.
The premises you have presented in your message are certainly pertinent. There is no doubt on the importance
of the deliverables which have been generated by CCSDS in the pertinent domain and, also, which are under
serious considerations by many other organizations (Libraries, etc.) besides your own ISO TC46/SC4 Subcommittee,
as well.
>From our side, the proper activation of this specific Liaison will be of ourprimary concern when we meet in
Darmstadt, later this current month, as also mentioned in my previous message, below. Please, wait for our
response to your consideration, after the coming meetings in our side, as mentioned.
I do hope and expect we will be inaugurating a profitful Liaison for both Subcommittees in our shortest possible
time.
Thank you so much for your initiative, togehter with the previous one from your Subcommittee colleague, Mrs.
Kati Heiskanen.
Sincerely, with my kind regards,
Eduardo W. Bergamini
Ch. ISO TC20/SC13
Cc. Dr. James Afarin, Secretary to ISO TC20/SC13, Secretary to CCSDS and Chairman CCSDS-CMC (Mngmt. Council)
P.S. Oct. 30 and Nov. 2 2015 is being a sequenced two day holiday for us, here in Brazil.
______________________________________________________________________________________________
From: <mailto:juha.hakala at helsinki.fi> Hakala, Juha E
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 7:24 AM
To: <mailto:e.w.bergamini at uol.com.br> Eduardo W. Bergamini
Cc: <mailto:Kati.Heiskanen at sfs.fi> Kati Heiskanen ; <mailto:james.afarin at nasa.gov> james.afarin at nasa.gov
Subject: RE: Request for Establishment of a Liaison between TC 20/SC 13 (Space data and information transfer systems) and TC 46/SC 4 (Technical interoperability)
Dear Mr. Bergamini,
Thank you for this kind response. I look forward to co-operation with TC 20/SC 13 and its secretariat.
As regards “the appropriate discussions in our side”, ISO directives, Part I provide very clear guidelines for SC 13 on how to proceed. According to § 1.15:
“1.15.1 Within each organization, technical committees and/or subcommittees working in related fields shall establish and maintain liaison. Liaisons shall also be established, where appropriate, with technical committees responsible for basic aspects of standardization (e.g. terminology, graphical symbols). Liaison shall include the exchange of basic documents, including new work item proposals and working drafts.
Committees may pass a resolution to decide on the establishment of an internal liaison. Committees receiving requests for internal liaisons cannot refuse such requests and there is no need for the committee receiving the request to pass a resolution confirming its acceptance.
1.15.2 The maintenance of such liaison is the responsibility of the respective technical committee secretariats, which may delegate the task to the secretariats of the subcommittees.”
In this case, “the related field” is digital preservation, which has become a vital issue to e.g. national libraries and national archives during the last decade. TC 20/SC 13 has published CCSDS specifications like OAIS which are used in almost all digital preservation projects in our community. Recently many research libraries have started working with research data, which may further increase then number of SC 13 / CCSDS standards relevant to our community.
Best regards,
Juha Hakala (Mr.)
From: Eduardo W. Bergamini [ <mailto:e.w.bergamini at uol.com.br> mailto:e.w.bergamini at uol.com.br]
Sent: 27. lokakuuta 2015 5:57
To: Kati Heiskanen, Mrs. - Secretary ISO/TC 46/SC 4 -Liaison to ISO TC20/SC13 <Kati.Heiskanen at sfs.fi <mailto:Kati.Heiskanen at sfs.fi> >
Cc: James Afarin, Dr. - Secretary to CCSDS & CMC/CCSDS Ch. & Secr. to ISO TC20/SC13 <James.Afarin at nasa.gov <mailto:James.Afarin at nasa.gov> >; Nick Tongson, Mr. - AIAA / CCSDS and ISO TC20/SC13 Secretariats <NickT at aiaa.org <mailto:NickT at aiaa.org> >; Hakala, Juha E <juha.hakala at helsinki.fi <mailto:juha.hakala at helsinki.fi> >; Daniele Boucon, Mrs. - Chairwoman MOIMS-DAI CNES/CST <daniele.boucon at cnes.fr <mailto:daniele.boucon at cnes.fr> >; Nestor Peccia, Dr. - Director CESG/CCSDS <Nestor.Peccia at esa.int <mailto:Nestor.Peccia at esa.int> >
Subject: Re: Request for Establishment of a Liaison between TC 20/SC 13 (Space data and information transfer systems) and TC 46/SC 4 (Technical interoperability)
Dear Mrs. Heiskanen,
I wish to express that I am pleased with your message and enclosed letter of Request
for Establishment of a Liaison between ISO TC20/SC13 and ISO TC46/SC4 Subcommittees,
in this last case, involving your WG15.
I see in our current, internal list of ISO TC20/SC13 Liaisons that we have the information:
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ISO TC 046/SC04
Liaison-ISO (6-i)
Please, consult secretariat (*)
ISO TC 046/SC 04
Liaison representative (secretary) (Liaison-ISO) (6-e)
Heiskanen, Kati - Mrs.
ISO TC 046/SC 04
Liaison representative (secretary support team) (6-e)
McCallum, S.H. – Ms.
ISO TC 046/SC 04
Liaison representative (secretary support team) (6-e)
Ng, Stuart
ISO TC 046/SC 04
Liaison representative (secretary support team) (6-e)
Sipola, Sirpa - Mrs.
ISO TC 046/SC 04
Liaison representative (secretary support team) (6-e)
Ukkonen, Virve - Mrs
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Indeed, at the moment we do not have an internal ISO TC20/SC13 liaison person (6-i)
assigned to your Subcommittee, although we have in record your name and others
from your secretariat support team.
Coming mid-November ISO TC20/SC13 Subcommittee will hold its coming meeting in
Darmstadt, as usual, in colocation with CCSDS ( <http://www.ccsds.org/> www.ccsds.org) Management Council
(CMC). In my understanding, this will be the oppportunity for holding the appropriate
discussions in our side, that may lead to the now pending response from ISO
TC20/SC13 Subcommittee to the enclosed, kind letter, which is being addressed to us
by ISO TC46/SC4 Subcommittee Chairwoman, Mrs. Juha Hakala.
Incidentally, if the case, permit me to briefly introduce you on the basic procedure of
work which is practiced between ISO TC20/SC13 Subcommittee and CCSDS.
The program of work of ISO TC20/SC13 Subcommittee is based on the COVER SHEET
process over CCSDS originated documents for submission and approval as ISO standards.
Under the mentioned procedure, two different types of CCSDS originated documents are
submitted under the Cover Sheet process by ISO TC20/SC13 Subcommittee:
1) RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SPACE DATA SYSTEM STANDARDS - RECOMMENDED STANDARD (CCSDS Blue Books)
or
2) RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SPACE DATA SYSTEM PRACTICES - RECOMMENDED PRACTICE (CCSDS Magenta Books)
Incidentally, the current, complete roster of CCSDS originated documents can be
found in the URL pointing:
<http://public.ccsds.org/publications/AllPubs.aspx> http://public.ccsds.org/publications/AllPubs.aspx
In particular, the contents of the CCSDS documents you are referring to can be found
and are downloadable from the mentioned roster, as part of its excerpt, which is
presented in the format:
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<http://public.ccsds.org/publications/archive/650x0m2.pdf> <http://public.ccsds.org/publications/archive/650x0m2.pdf> CCSDS 650.0-M-2
File size: 1,903,749 Bytes
Reference Model for an Open Archival Information System (OAIS) . Magenta Book. Issue 2. June 2012.
This Recommended Practice defines the Reference Model for an Open Archival Information System (OAIS).The current issue includes clarifications to many concepts, in particular, Authenticity with the concept of Transformational Information Property introduced; corrections and improvements in diagrams; addition of Access Rights Information to PDI.
<http://public.ccsds.org/publications/archive/651x0m1.pdf> <http://public.ccsds.org/publications/archive/651x0m1.pdf> CCSDS 651.0-M-1
File size: 521,980 Bytes
Producer-Archive Interface Methodology Abstract Standard . Magenta Book. Issue 1. May 2004.
This Recommended Practice identifies, defines, and provides structure to the relationships and interactions between an information Producer and an Archive. This Recommended Practice defines the methodology for the structure of actions that are required from the initial time of contact between the Producer and the Archive until the objects of information are received and validated by the Archive. These actions cover the first stage of the Ingest Process as defined in the Open Information System (OAIS) Reference Model. This Recommended Practice describes parts of the functional entities Administration ('Negotiate Submission Agreement') and Ingest ('Receive Submission' and 'Quality Assurance'). <http://www.iso.org/iso/home/store/catalogue_tc/catalogue_tc_browse.htm?commid=46612> ISO Equivalent : 20652
<http://public.ccsds.org/publications/archive/651x1b1.pdf> <http://public.ccsds.org/publications/archive/651x1b1.pdf> CCSDS 651.1-B-1
File size: 603,351 Bytes
Producer-Archive Interface Specification (PAIS) . Blue Book. Issue 1. February 2014.
This Recommended Standard provides the abstract syntax and an XML implementation of descriptions of data to be sent to an archive.These descriptions are negotiated agreements between the data Producer and the Archive and facilitate production of agreed data by the Producer and validation of received data by the Archive.The Recommended Standard includes an abstract syntax for describing how these data will be aggregated into packages for transmission and one concrete implementation for the packages based on the XML Formatted Data Unit (XFDU) standard. <http://www.iso.org/iso/home/store/catalogue_tc/catalogue_tc_browse.htm?commid=46612> ISO equivalent: 20104 <http://sanaregistry.org/r/daixml/daixml.html> Click here for PAIS XML Schemas
<http://public.ccsds.org/publications/archive/652x0m1.pdf> <http://public.ccsds.org/publications/archive/652x0m1.pdf> CCSDS 652.0-M-1
File size: 434,037 Bytes
Audit and Certification of Trustworthy Digital Repositories . Magenta Book. Issue 1. September 2011.
This Recommended Practice defines an audit and certification process for assessing the trustworthiness of digital repositories. <http://www.iso.org/iso/home/store/catalogue_tc/catalogue_tc_browse.htm?commid=46612> ISO Equivalent : 16363
<http://public.ccsds.org/publications/archive/652x1m2.pdf> <http://public.ccsds.org/publications/archive/652x1m2.pdf> CCSDS 652.1-M-2
File size: 188,300 Bytes
Requirements for Bodies Providing Audit and Certification of Candidate Trustworthy Digital Repositories . Magenta Book. Issue 2. March 2014.
The Recommended Practice for Requirements for Bodies Providing Audit and Certification of Candidate Trustworthy Digital Repositories contains binding and verifiable specifications required to befulfilled by organizations that perform ISO audits for assessing the trustworthiness of digital repositories using CCSDS 652.0-M-1, Audit and Certification of Trustworthy Digital Repositories,and provides the appropriate certification. The current issue has been updated to reflect input from ISO experts.
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Perhaps, it may also be opportune to mention that the current structure of CCSDS
Working Groups can be found in the CCSDS public page pointed by the URL:
<http://cwe.ccsds.org/default.aspx> http://cwe.ccsds.org/default.aspx .
Should you have, any time, any questions or need for clarification, please, do not
hesitate to address us.
Otherwise, as already mentioned above, we expectto be addressing ISO TC46/SC4
Subcommittee Chairwoman, Mrs. Juha Hakala, in our first opportunity, after the
above mentioned, coming ISO TC20/SC123 meeting, coming mid November.
Please, confirm if you received this message. Thank you.
With my kind regards,
EDUARDO BERGAMINI
Chairman, ISO TC20/SC13 Subcommittee
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ENCLOSURE: N986 Request for Establishment of a Liaison between TC20/SC13 and
TC46/SC4
______________________________________________________________________
From: <mailto:Kati.Heiskanen at sfs.fi> Kati Heiskanen
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 7:06 AM
To: <mailto:james.afarin at nasa.gov> james.afarin at nasa.gov ; <mailto:e.w.bergamini at uol.com.br> e.w.bergamini at uol.com.br
Cc: <mailto:juha.hakala at helsinki.fi> Juha Hakala ; <mailto:Sirpa.Sipola at sfs.fi> Sirpa Sipola ; <mailto:claire.sibille at culture.gouv.fr> Claire Sibille-de Grimoüard ; <mailto:PELAPRAT at iso.org> Mary Lou PELAPRAT ; <mailto:sabine.donnardcusse at afnor.org> Donnard Cusse Sabine Mme
Subject: Request for Establishment of a Liaison between TC 20/SC 13 (Space data and information transfer systems) and TC 46/SC 4 (Technical interoperability)
Dear Secretariat of ISO/TC 20/SC 13, Mr. Bergamini,
ISO TC 46/SC 4 has recently launched a new work item DEPIP (Data Exchange Protocol for Interoperability and Preservation). A new working group, WG 15 (Metadata and protocols for long term preservation) is responsible for the work.
In its 2015 plenary ISO TC 46/SC 4 made the following resolution:
− TC 46/SC 4 Instructs the SC4 secretariat to contact and establish a liaison with ISO/TC 20/SC 13 responsible for OAIS standards, for involvement in WG15 work.
Therefore, please find attached our liaison request for your consideration.
With kind regards from sunny Helsinki,
Kati Heiskanen
ISO/TC 46/SC 4 Secretary
Techical Adviser
Finnish Standards Association SFS
Malminkatu 34
P.O. Box 130
FI-00101 Helsinki
Tel. +358 9 1499 3369
Fax +358 9 146 4925
E-mail <mailto:kati.heiskanen at sfs.fi> kati.heiskanen at sfs.fi
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