[Css-csts] CSTS - NOTIFY operation changes -
Object Identifiersupdates
Yves.Doat at esa.int
Yves.Doat at esa.int
Wed Dec 21 07:10:26 EST 2011
Dear John,
Once more thank you for your effort.
I worked and cross checked the ASN.1 and found the same problem as you. I
also consider the following definition as incorrect:
NotificationTypes ::= CHOICE
{ eventName ParamEventOrListName
, eventValue VisibleString
, notificationTypeExtension Extended
}
(I simply forgot to replace CHOICE by SEQUENCE)
I replaced it by:
NotificationTypes ::= SEQUENCE
{ eventName ParamEventOrListName
, eventValue VisibleString
, notificationTypeExtension Extended
}
With that definition I have to admit that I force the specifier to define any
new event as an Object Identifier. This OID is completed with a VisibleString
and the Extended.
The VisibleString allows the procedure/service to send any message in a
text form;
The extension allows the procedure/service to define any structure (This
functionality will be required for the forward services).
=====
I looked at your alternative proposals:
NotificationTypes ::= CHOICE
{ notificationType ::= SEQUENCE
{ eventName ParamEventOrListName
, eventValue VisibleString
}
, notificationTypeExtension Extended
}
This approach forces the procedure/service that needs additional parameter to
use the extension and does not allow the use of event name (including a
functional resource).
From my understanding that structure is not desirable.
The second alternative structures:
EventName ::= CHOICE
{ eventName ParamEventOrListName
, eventNameExtension Extended
}
EventValue ::= CHOICE
{ eventValue VisibleString
, eventValueExtension Extended
}
would again prevent the use of the agreed structured event name and from my
understanding is not desirable.
Please let me know if the replacement of CHOICE by SEQUENCE solves the issue.
I am not sure that I will have time before Christmas to work on the book
again and I will publish it with the above change. Additional changes will be
incorporated into the January 2012 version.
I will send a separate mail pointing to the uploaded file.
I wish you a merry Christmas with your family.
Best regards
Yves
From: "John Pietras" <john.pietras at gst.com>
To: <Yves.Doat at esa.int>, <css-csts at mailman.ccsds.org>
Date: 20/12/2011 18:15
Subject: RE: [Css-csts] CSTS - NOTIFY operation changes - Object Identifiersupdates
Sent by: css-csts-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org
Yves,
I haven’t reviewed the complete set of updates, but I think that there is a
flaw in the updated NOTIFY specification that may propagate through the other
sections.
Previously, the NOTIFY operation had the notification-type parameter, which
was defined (for the base operation) as a choice of productionConfigured,
productionInterrupted, productionHalted, productionOperational, or
notificationExtended, all of which were defined as of type Extended. The
Notification procedure extended the notificationExtended choice with two
parameters, event-name and event-value, where both were defined as of type
VisibleString.
In the update, you intended to bring the Notification procedure extended
definition into the base NOTIFY operation (which resulted in no extension in
the Notification procedure). However, in doing so, the event-value has been
lost in the text specification. Yet event-value is in the ASN.1, but it is
listed as a choice:
NotificationTypes ::= CHOICE
{ eventName ParamEventOrListName
, eventValue VisibleString
, notificationTypeExtension Extended
}
The intent was that (at least in the Notification procedures) eventName and
eventValue be both present, not one or the other. The above ASN.1 also allows
the possibility to define notification types that have names that are not
structured suing OIDs.
I’ve been trying to think of some ways to correct this, but there are
questions that I don’t know the answers to:
1) Do we want to make the event –value parameter a part of the
base NOTIFY operation?
2) Do we want to require that event-names always be structures as
OIDs?
3) Do we want to allow the extended values of notification type
replace on the name syntax, or the name/value constructions?
For example, the following allows the base notification type to consist of an
event-name and event-value pair, but allows procedures to derive completely
different constructions of notification-type.
NotificationTypes ::= CHOICE
{ notificationType ::= SEQUENCE
{ eventName ParamEventOrListName
, eventValue VisibleString
}
, notificationTypeExtension Extended
}
For example, the following allows the base notification type to consist of an
event-name and event-value pair, but allows procedures to derive completely
different constructions of notification-type. The parameter of the NOTIFY
operation would be notification-type, defined as having two components,
event-name and event-value. But by extending the notificationTypeExtension
choice, a derived procedure could replace both the event-name and event-value
parameters with a new set of parameters.
NotificationTypes ::= CHOICE
{ notificationType ::= SEQUENCE
{ eventName ParamEventOrListName
, eventValue VisibleString
}
, notificationTypeExtension Extended
}
Another possibility would be to let the base NOTIFY operation have explicit
event-name and event-value parameters, each of which could be replaced by
extension. This would, for example, allow a vector-valued event value to be
used in a derived procedure.
EventName ::= CHOICE
{ eventName ParamEventOrListName
, eventNameExtension Extended
}
EventValue ::= CHOICE
{ eventValue VisibleString
, eventValueExtension Extended
}
Without knowing what the ultimate intent is, I can’t make a specific
recommendation.
Best regards,
John
From: css-csts-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org [
mailto:css-csts-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org] On Behalf Of Yves.Doat at esa.int
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 2:40 AM
To: css-csts at mailman.ccsds.org
Subject: [Css-csts] CSTS - NOTIFY operation changes - Object
Identifiersupdates
Dear all,
A agreed I performed the following changes in the Framework:
NOTIFY operation: The notification-type definition has been changed
from a choice of events to the structure agreed in the Notification
procedure: event-name and event-value. The event-name is constructed
with a functional resource and an event identifier.
See attached file: "NOTIFY Operation.pdf"
As a consequence of the NOTIFY operation changes the Buferred Data
Delivery procedure has been changed as follows:
- The NOTIFY operation is not extended anymore but refined to allow
the addition of procedure events
See attached file: "Buffered Data Delivery with new NOTIFY.pdf"
As a consequence of the NOTIFY operation changes the Notification
procedure has been changed as follows:
- The NOTIFY operation is used as is without any extension and
refinement
See attached file: "Notification procedure with new NOTIFY.pdf"
The Object Identifiers definition (Annex C) has been updated as
follows:
A new Framework OID branch has been added for the Framework
events. That branch includes the 4 NOTIFY operation events. (See
Annex C and Annex J, Figure J-2)
A new CSTS branch has been added for the Functional Resources OID
and for the Parameters OID definitions See Annex J, Figure J-1).
The Functional Resources OID has been further expanded with 1 OID
per Agency. This is done in order to reflect our Boulder
discussion where each Agency will have its own functional
resources (We agreed not to embark on standardisation of
functional resources and let each Agency defines its own). (See
Annex C and Annex J, Figure J-4)
The parameters OID bracnh has been added to cover the parameters
definition that are currently under discussion for the monitoring
service (See Annex J, Figure J-4).
See attached file: "Annexes C and J- Object identifiers.pdf"
I will now check the ASN.1 syntax and upload the new version of the book to
the CWE before the end of the week.
Please let me have your comments.
Best regards.
Yves
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