[CMC] [Cesg-all] RES: Results of Recent CMC Polls

Wed Sep 20 14:50:16 UTC 2017

>> It is worth to remind that CCSDS, since its early beginning agreed to come up with results based on consensus, a principle that does not necessarily imply in an explicit voting in a voting forum.

Agreed.  Perhaps we can follow Eduardo’s recommendation and re-issue the poll with this clarification?

Kevin

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Subject: [Cesg-all] RES: [CMC] Results of Recent CMC Polls

Dear James,

For your consideration.

The fact is that we face the daily challenge of coping with the overload of items to deal with in our daily routine. Therefore, your pondering … “I like to make sure that member agency that did not register their vote were actually disagree with the project and did not forget or were not able to vote” does make sense to me. In fact, it can be frequently observed that CMC resulting polls turn out to not involve the voting all participating agencies. This time, it was different but, perhaps, a timid indicator of a new pattern that may require our attention and consideration. In view of such a relatively rare occurrences, in this specific case, I would understand that it would make sense a resubmission of the poll, possibly, by adding to it a clear declaration that a non-voting of an agency may be interpreted as an abstention. Just that. A new attempt may not solve the pendency but, assuming it is expected to be a relatively rare event and, conjugated with the importance of what is under consideration in this poll, it may be a justified, new type of initiative. In any case, a reconfirmation of the results that are in hand or, perhaps, a new chance for a fine grain poll, as usually expected by all of us, in principle. It is worth to remind that CCSDS, since its early beginning agreed to come up with results based on consensus, a principle that does not necessarily imply in an explicit voting in a voting forum.

Thank you,
Eduardo Bergamini
INPE/CCSDS

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HI Nestor,

Thank you for pointing out that the poll failed.  I think it is very appropriate if there is not enough vote to approve a poll it should fail.  I like to make sure that member agency that did not register their vote were actually disagree with the project and did not forget or were not able to vote.  If any member agency was unable to vote please let me know.

Thank you,

James

Dr. James Afarin

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Space Communications and Navigation Division
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Mobile: 202-549-6496

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Subject: [CMC] [Cesg-all] Results of Recent CMC Polls

Brian

According to the Proc & Org YB
5.3.5.4.4.2 Failure to achieve approval can result from lack of quorum. For CMC polls, votes from more than fifty percent of the members are needed to achieve quorum.

the following poll has failed and it needs to be reissued

CMC-P-2017-07-005 Approval of New Project in the SOIS - Onboard Wireless Working Group "High Data Rate Wireless Network Communications" Orange Book
Results of CMC poll beginning 28 July 2017 and ending 14 August 2017:
Adopt:  5 (100%) (CNSA, CSA, INPE, JAXA, NASA)
Adopt Provisionally:  0 (0%)
Reject:  0 (0%)
Reject with Comments:  0 (0%)
Results are based on responses from 5 out of 11 members (45.45%).
No response was received from the following Agencies:
ASI
CNES
ESA
RFSA
DLR
UKSA
Secretariat Interpretation of Results:  Adopted
Resulting CMC Resolution:                CMC-R-2017-09-007
Inferred Secretariat Action:                Approve Project in CWE (Done)

ciao
nestor

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CMC E-Poll Identifier: CMC-P-2017-08-006 Approval of CMC Minutes June 2017 in St. Petersburg

Results of CMC poll beginning 31 August 2017 and ending 14 September 2017:

Adopt:  5 (83%) (CNES, CNSA, CSA, NASA, UKSA)
Adopt Provisionally:  1 (17%) (JAXA)
Reject:  0 (0%)
Reject with Comments:  0 (0%)

Results are based on responses from 6 out of 11 members (54.54%).

No response was received from the following Agencies:

ASI
ESA
INPE
RFSA
DLR

Conditions (JAXA)

Please correct the minutes as follows,

- Page 17, second paragraph,
(from)  T. Shigeta added that Japan recently created new space related role under which JAXA's role is stated as to support and encourage commercial industries and private institutions for their active participations in space activities.

(to)    T. Shigeta added that Japan recently created new space related low under which JAXA's role is stated as to support and encourage commercial industries and private institutions for their active participations in space activities.

Secretariat Interpretation of Results:  Adopt Provisionally
Resulting CMC Resolution:                CMC-R-2017-09-005
Inferred Secretariat Action:                Update minutes based on JAXA Provisions.

CMC-P-2017-07-006 Approval of New Project in the MOIMS - Navigation Working Group "Navigation Events Message" - Blue Book

Results of CMC poll beginning 28 July 2017 and ending 14 August 2017:

Adopt:  6 (100%) (CNES, CNSA, CSA, INPE, JAXA, NASA)
Adopt Provisionally:  0 (0%)
Reject:  0 (0%)
Reject with Comments:  0 (0%)

Results are based on responses from 6 out of 11 members (54.54%).

No response was received from the following Agencies:

ASI
ESA
RFSA
DLR
UKSA

Secretariat Interpretation of Results:  Adopted
Resulting CMC Resolution:                CMC-R-2017-09-006
Inferred Secretariat Action:                Approve Project in CWE (Done)

CMC-P-2017-07-005 Approval of New Project in the SOIS - Onboard Wireless Working Group "High Data Rate Wireless Network Communications" Orange Book

Results of CMC poll beginning 28 July 2017 and ending 14 August 2017:

Adopt:  5 (100%) (CNSA, CSA, INPE, JAXA, NASA)
Adopt Provisionally:  0 (0%)
Reject:  0 (0%)
Reject with Comments:  0 (0%)

Results are based on responses from 5 out of 11 members (45.45%).

No response was received from the following Agencies:

ASI
CNES
ESA
RFSA
DLR
UKSA

Secretariat Interpretation of Results:  Adopted
Resulting CMC Resolution:                CMC-R-2017-09-007
Inferred Secretariat Action:                Approve Project in CWE (Done)

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