AW: AW: [CMC] Updated CCSDS Strategic Roadmap

Mon Aug 4 13:38:21 UTC 2014

Juan
Thank you very much for your feedback.
I think we have a lot to talk in London.
Also thanks for clarifying the colors book question from Shigeta-san.
Best Regards
Osvaldo

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Von: Juan.Miro at esa.int [mailto:Juan.Miro at esa.int] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 1. August 2014 20:19
An: Peinado, Osvaldo Luis
Cc: NickT at aiaa.org; CMC at mailman.ccsds.org; cmc-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org
Betreff: Re: AW: [CMC] Updated CCSDS Strategic Roadmap

Dear Oswaldo,

You are right in saying that avoiding duplication and maximizing synergies
across the areas should be part of the strategy.

The CESG has recently updated an old list of potential or identified
duplications and this shall be an input to our discussion in London. I will
ask Nestor to distribute it to the CMC now so that e can reflect on it and
come to London with proposals for solution.

The presentation, in chart 41, only depicts the links that are explicitly
mentioned in the Strategic Plan document. The ones you mention (video, audio,
DTN, robotics) are relevant for the big picture we are trying to put together
and we should ask the area directors / WG chairs to be exhaustive in
identifying them in the Strategic Plan (update) or provide this input so that
we can complete the diagram in the presentation.

The points you make of synergy between human spaceflight and the wireless WG
should be escalated to the Area Directors and CESG for resolution. Also the
ground network planning and scheduling  CCSDS standards, their possible
extension to humAn spaceflight and the sharing of the corresponding tools
across the Space Agencies are strategic points to be addressed at CESG level
first and if not resolved escalated to the CMC. This is all good stuff for
the discussion on strategy planned in the CMC meeting in London.

I hope I have addressed all your points and invite the other CMC members to
provide their feedback on these points also.

Regards
Juan

Sent from my iPhone

> On 01.08.2014, at 16:27, osvaldo.peinado at dlr.de wrote:
>
> Dear Juan,
> Thanks for the update.
> In page 41 is possible to see the relationship between the areas, but I
least (me) cannot see anywhere the conflicts or overlapping /parallel work.
> May be we must to go much more in detail looking into the concrete themes.
May be is more the Job of the area Managers.
> Or it need to be analyzed case by case.
> For example there is a relationship between the video, voice and DTN
working groups, these are all in the SIS area, but I cannot see or analyze
this particular case here.
> There is a relationship between the video and robotics groups (we cannot
have a Robot without cameras).
> When I asked to the Onboard Wireless working group to work together,
talking about the helmet cameras of the astronauts, the answer was no, you
need to much BW.
> We have today a DLR discussion about the integration of CCSDS in the
planning and scheduling tools.
> As you know ESA got a new development for ESTRAC, NASA Huntsville have one
for payload operations (the same one used by Russia- not the new one, but the
current CPS version), NASA Houston have developed OPTIMIS (where JAXA and ESA
are involved as well) and we found out that in the CCSDS WG the human space
flight part is simply not take into account.
> That means we are development a new standard that can be used for half or
less  of the space community.
> These are may be just little examples and not so important for CMC, but I
think this kind of problems should be faced by the management and decisions
should be taken in order to avoid missing aspects or parallel work.
> In my humble opinion in a strategic roadmap a general guideline should be
reflected in an higher level (as is done now), but all these "daily issues"
should be considered or at least reflected somewhere.
> May be I misunderstood the meaning of the roadmap plan.
> On the other side, I completely agree with Jean-Marc comment that we are
having too many plans, we should harmonize them, we can only take proper
decisions based in the available information, that must be summarized in 1 or
2 places, no more.
> Sorry, I think this E-mails becomes too long, we can talk about that in
London or in a telecom.
> Have a nice weekend
> Osvaldo
>
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> Von: cmc-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org [mailto:cmc-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org]
Im Auftrag von Juan.Miro at esa.int
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 31. Juli 2014 23:23
> An: Nick Tongson; CCSDS Management Council (CMC at mailman.ccsds.org)
(CMC at mailman.ccsds.org); cmc-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org
> Betreff: [CMC] Updated CCSDS Strategic Roadmap
>
> Dear all,
>
> during the last mid term webex-conference I took the action to update the
> presentation format of the Strategic Plan or as I like to call it the
> Strategic Roadmap.
>
> This is the basis for the  CMC Response to AI CMC20140405),for those of us
> for which this action is still open. Out input should be at the level of
the
> response of Jean-Marc Soula  provided at the mid-term webex-conf, i.e. not
so
> much on the format but rather on the substance of the strategic plan as
> depicted by this presentation. This action is now reopened until 30th of
> September, and Jean-Marc, Mike and myself will put together the material
for
> the CMC discussion we will have in London  on the future of CCSDS (1/2 day
> foreseen). This should be a ground braking session to decide the structure
> and priorities of the CCSDS until 2020
>
> The update of the Strategic Roadmap, attached, takes into account comments
> received from CNES, DLR and Jaxa
>    SANA goal removed
>    clear graphical distinction between approved in CWE, pending in CWE and
>    Not in CWE
>    BBs and MBs in CWE but not in Strategic Plan are added
>    however completion dates are taken from Strategic Plan (not always the
>    same as in CWE)
>    elimination of repetitions and inconsistencies (duplication of GFT in
>    MOIMS Goals #2 and #4 is just reflecting the Strategy Document and needs
>    to be solved there)
>
> Regards
> Juan
>
> (See attached file: CCSDS_Strategic_Roadmap_140731.pptx)
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