[CMC E-Poll Alert] CMC Poll Results
Neil Dissinger
neild at aiaa.org
Sun Aug 13 16:57:14 EDT 2006
CMC E-Poll Identifier: CMC-P-2006-06-007: Authorization to
publish Mission Operations Services Concept Informational
Report (CCSDS 520.0-G-2)
Results of CMC poll beginning 29 June 2006 and ending 11
August 2006:
ADOPT: 8 (88.89%) (ASI, BNSC, CNES, CSA,
ESA, INPE, JAXA, NASA)
ADOPT PROVISIONALLY: 1 (11.11%) (DLR)
REJECT: 0 (0%)
REJECT WITH COMMENTS: 0 (0%)
DLR: - check Document control on consistency
- is a ground system performance not forseen (2.2.1)?
- should the spcacraft software management an autonomous
process with no interactions to other processes in the
spacecraft?
Results are based on responses from 9 out of 10 members
(90%).
No response was received from the following Agencies:
FSA
Secretariat Interpretation of Results: Adopted
Provisionally
Resulting CMC Resolution: TBD
Inferred Secretariat Action: Pending Disposition of
Provisions
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CMC E-Poll Identifier: CMC-P-2006-07-001: Authorization to
discontinue formal CESG review for Standards and
non-Standards Track documents
Results of CMC poll beginning 14 July 2006 and ending 11
August 2006:
ADOPT: 5 (62.5%) (ASI, CSA, ESA, INPE,
NASA)
ADOPT PROVISIONALLY: 0 (0%)
REJECT: 0 (0%)
REJECT WITH COMMENTS: 3 (37.5%) (CNES, DLR, JAXA)
CNES: Why is the CMC asked as it seems it is already
in place at the CESG level ?
The implications seem to be with the procedures but maybe
also with the overall organization ... Is there a plan to
combine CESG and CMC some day ?
It is not clear what is the problem:
- delays are not that long with e-polls ; we are granted a
couple of weeks on votes, not months !
- the CESG members do not often vote : this is a problem,
but will it change with the proposed process ? If they
don't do it while they have a "must" on it, why would they
do it when it is changed to a "may". Will it work better
with more people involved ?
The CESG and CMC votes have different meanings and the CMC
cannot cumulate both, under the current organization:
1) The CESG review is intended to validate the form and
the contents of the documents before the formal agency
reviews ; any cross area disagreement on technical issues
is to be solved in this forum. Previously, there were
cases of documents with negative votes at CESG level.
The CMC poll is not for a review of the documents but for
a go-ahead on the agency review. The CMC cannot endorse
the responsibility to place for review a document of poor
technical quality or which conflicts with other documents.
2) The polls on new charters are validated at the
technical level by the CESG and the CMC approval mainly
concentrates on the resources. Another poll proposes to
cancel the resource information in the charters : will the
CMC be the judge for the technical contents of the
documents ?
3) The polls for publication may be less critical as the
AD may confirm to the CMC that the Agency Review was
completed satisfactorily, but this only works if the CESG
was consulted before the Agency Review.
DLR: The role of the CMC - as long as I understand
it is to take the technical approval of the CESG and give
a go ahead. So the level of preparing a document up to the
level of an agency agreement will be on the level of the
CESG.
ESA: Makes sense
JAXA: My understanding is that the role of CESG is
different from the CMC, therefore inclusive technical
approval should be executed by CESG.
Results are based on responses from 8 out of 10 members
(80%).
No response was received from the following Agencies:
BNSC
FSA
Secretariat Interpretation of Results: Rejected
Resulting CMC Resolution: None
Inferred Secretariat Action: No Action
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CMC E-Poll Identifier: CMC-P-2006-07-002: Modification of
CCSDS Working Group charter content and update procedures
Results of CMC poll beginning 14 July 2006 and ending 11
August 2006:
ADOPT: 4 (50%) (ASI, CSA, INPE, NASA)
ADOPT PROVISIONALLY: 3 (37.5%) (CNES, ESA, JAXA)
REJECT: 0 (0%)
REJECT WITH COMMENTS: 1 (12.5%) (DLR)
CNES: It should be clarified how the resource
requirements will be passed to the CMC and how the
resource allocation will be established.
The operating plan was presented several times as the
working document between the technical authority in the
CCSDS and the decision authority, the main subject to work
being the resource allocation. What is the substitute tool
?
Also, it is not clear how the reporting from the CESG will
integrate actual contributions.
DLR: as long as there is no other metrics to
validate the reliability of the workplan, I cannot accept
the removal of the resource requirements from the WG
charter. I can accept the arguments, but how can the CMC
at the end rerally stear CCSDS, if there is no basis for
setting up the working groups?
ESA: I have sympathy for the arguments: it's
reality. Nevertheless an AD should specify globally the
ressources he needs and report back how much it got (the
Agency origin of the ressource being irrelevant). However
the Agencies need to manage their ressource (level +
allocation). Therefore I suggest that the ressource
allocation is managed at CMC level as a response to the AD
requirements. This needs to be discussed and elaborated at
the next CMC.
JAXA: How do we manage the Resource Requirements
information?
Results are based on responses from 8 out of 10 members
(80%).
No response was received from the following Agencies:
BNSC
FSA
Secretariat Interpretation of Results: Rejected
Resulting CMC Resolution: None
Inferred Secretariat Action: No Action
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