[CESG] Results of CESG Poll | CESG-P-2026-07-002 Approval to release CCSDS 922.4-R-1, Cross Support Transfer Service-Service Control

Mon Aug 24 10:18:14 EDT 2026

Hi all,

I also tend to agree with Jim, in the last years we got the use to just drop something quick in CWE while creating projects to get soon a CMC poll for the approval. As such, the general description was vague in some cases and was never revised/improved for the rest of the lifetime of that project. In my opinion we don’t need new processes or rules for this, but we need to more diligently work in the creation of new project and their maintenance through their lifetime. 

Tomaso

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Subject: Re: [CESG] Results of CESG Poll | CESG-P-2026-07-002 Approval to release CCSDS 922.4-R-1, Cross Support Transfer Service-Service Control

To the projects in general, they need updating, revising etc.  I think we’ve gotten in the habit of creating them, getting approval, and never looking at them again.  

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Results of CESG Poll | CESG-P-2026-07-002 Approval to release CCSDS 922.4-R-1, Cross Support Transfer Service-Service Control 

Dear Erik, Dear Holger,

Concerning Condition 2, Holger has explained to me that the prototyping rational: In my simple understanding you argue that a) the procedures used in 922.4 are not changed and already prototyped as they are drawn from other blue books and already prototyped. b) 922.4 is only assembling prototyped procedures, which means interoperability is not affected.

With that explanation I withdraw Condition 2. To ease the procedure for next time, I suggest to delivery the rational for the prototyping approach with the CESG approval poll.

Concerning Condition 1, maybe I should have been more precise. There is a project description, but it is not fit for purpose to decide on the aspects I mentioned. After pondering over that point, I believe that it is not my place to raise a condition here and withdraw it. For good practice I will voice to the CMC that it is my opinion that project descriptions must answer the two points (clear scope & mission need) before approval.

Regards,

Clemens

From: Barkley, Erik J (US 343J) <erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov <mailto:erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov> >
Date: Thursday, 13. August 2026 at 20:52
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Subject: RE: Results of CESG Poll | CESG-P-2026-07-002 Approval to release CCSDS 922.4-R-1, Cross Support Transfer Service-Service Control

Dear Clemens,

I respectfully request that you withdraw your conditions.  My rational is immediately below.

Best regards,

-Erik

Condition 1: Here is the project screenshot, with the project description:

It will note that it strains credulity that CMC will approve a project without any project description or that the CSS Area would proceed without such approval.  I believe this condition is null and void.

Condition 2: Holger has addressed this.  In addition, I can refer you to the CESG/CMC Meeting of November 2023 where the waiver was granted in response to the CSS report.  From the CSS Report of November 2023

*	“SC-CSTS prototyping

*	Emerging SC-CSTS recommendation makes use of the CSTS Framework
*	Procedures neither extend nor restrict the CSTS Framework procedures
*	Ie., the procedures/operations that are in the SC-CSTS have already been prototyped, published as part of the CSTS Framework BB
*	WG and AD concur that prototyping for the recommendation will not add anything beyond prototyping already done and will seek prototyping waiver”

The waiver was subsequently granted. As procedural point of order, a prototype report is not required until the book is going for publication poll.  This was a poll for agency review.  As such I believe this condition is null and void.

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] FW: Results of CESG Poll | CESG-P-2026-07-002 Approval to release CCSDS 922.4-R-1, Cross Support Transfer Service-Service Control

Hi Clemens,

The prototyping for the CSTS Service Control is relying on the CSTS Service Specification Framework, a published blue book (https://ccsds.org/publications/bluebooks/entry/3008/ <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https:/ccsds.org/publications/bluebooks/entry/3008/__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!JglJi5ZOjANS7E0Ks47o8_lgZTSLrFfOJOHYwbHbgEOC4vHyjPbgOIiljIGGUlgsoVcjvN3rrnGXZLssgjguBKmGqnLGrwD6xjg1$> ) which was prototyped. That prototyping included the operations and procedure which have been adopted unchanged by CSTS Service Control from the CSTS Service Specifications Framework. As such, CSTS Service Control Prototyping would have been a repetition of a prototyping already performed. That was driver the waiving the for prototyping, which is possible.

Best regards,

Holger

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Subject: [CESG-All] Results of CESG Poll | CESG-P-2026-07-002 Approval to release CCSDS 922.4-R-1, Cross Support Transfer Service-Service Control

CESG E-Poll Identifier: CESG-P-2026-07-002 Approval to release CCSDS 922.4-R-1, Cross Support Transfer Service-Service Control

Results of CESG poll beginning 2026-07-17 and ending 2026-07-31:

Agency

Results

Conditions

CSS-AD

APPROVE UNCONDITIONALLY

A minor request to the secretariat, tech editors: prior to release for agency review, please change the footer in section 4 to read "July 2026" rather than "November 2024".  Similarly for Annex A - H please change the footer from "June 2026" to "July 2026"

SLS-AD

APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS (state conditions that must be satisfied)

Condition 1: 922x4 does not have a project description in framework, this means it is not clear what has been approved by CMC. Scope of project and mission need is undefined. We need to ensure and verify that missions adapt this book before publication. This needs to be clarified.

Condition 2: Prototyping has been waived according to project MSs in 2023. This is not in line with the requirements for a blue book. The introduction of control services is a significant change.

SIS-AD

APPROVE UNCONDITIONALLY

SEA-AD

APPROVE UNCONDITIONALLY

Total Respondents: 4

Secretariat Interpretation of Results: Approved with Conditions
Proposed Secretariat Action: Setup Review Once Conditions are met

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