[CESG] [EXTERNAL] Re: Request Extension to CESG review

Shames, Peter M (US 312B) peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov
Wed Jan 15 22:40:32 UTC 2020

Hi Tom,

I get the logic of limiting those two pink sheet reviews to only another seven days, because they are rather modest in scope, even if there is a significant issue with one of them.  For the other documents I think two weeks may be needed in at least four of the cases.

But, as I said, it is not really my issue aside from wishing there to be a solid technical review of all these documents.

Thanks, Peter

From: Tom Gannett <thomas.gannett at tgannett.net>
Date: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 1:01 PM
To: Peter Shames <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>, Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>
Cc: CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [CESG] Request Extension to CESG review


Gian Paolo was requesting that polls for proposed review documents be extended by one week only, and I understood that to mean that the other polls can be extended by two weeks. There are three proposed Pink Book/Sheet documents under polling; two are proposed Pink Sheets consisting of no more than a few pages each. I believe it would not be a burden on the ADs to limit the extension for those two document polls to seven days. The other is a Pink Book consisting of 143 pages; it might make sense to allow the full two weeks for that one.

Can you reply with your position on limiting the poll extension for the two Pink Sheet documents to seven days?


Logothete, L.L.C.
thomas.gannett at tgannett.net
+1 443 472 0805

From: Shames, Peter M (US 312B) [mailto:peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 3:29 PM
To: Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int; Thomas Gannett
Cc: cesg at mailman.ccsds.org
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [CESG] Request Extension to CESG review

Hi Gippo,

I do understand the desire to get these nine (9) documents through CESG review and out to the agencies.  That said, this is a large number of documents, a few of which are substantial and several of which have issues that were immediately apparent when I started reading them.   It appears that only three of the ADs have been able to make time to do any sort of review, and I had time only because of a shift in my added duties.  I looked, and found that for every document there is at least one "Abstain, does not affect my Area" vote, which means that every one of these standards has not had a real review by more than 2 ADs, at best.   Some only had review by one AD.

Since we, the CESG, are the technical review and approval body for CCSDS standards this concerns me.  I think we really must do justice to these reviews.  And so I support the extension of the review period, even though THAT does not affect my Area.  I'm done.

Best regards, Peter

From: CESG <cesg-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org> on behalf of Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>
Date: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 10:43 AM
To: Tom Gannett <thomas.gannett at tgannett.net>
Cc: CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [CESG] Request Extension to CESG review

Dear All,
For the documents under poll to start Agency Review, could we limit the extension to one week?

Gian Paolo
Sent from my iPhone

On 15. Jan 2020, at 19:16, Thomas Gannett <thomas.gannett at tgannett.net> wrote:

Procedurally, you should include the CESG on such requests, so I am replying in order to add the cesg list to the headers. If there are no objections I’ll extend the polling period later today. I feel I should point out, though, that quite a number of other document-related polls are poised for posting as soon as the current polls end.

Best regards,

Logothete, L.L.C.
thomas.gannett at tgannett.net
+1 443 472 0805

From: Wilmot, Jonathan J. (GSFC-5820) [mailto:jonathan.j.wilmot at nasa.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 12:27 PM
To: thomas.gannett at tgannett.net
Cc: Shames, Peter M (JPL-312B)[Jet Propulsion Laboratory]; Burleigh, Scott C (JPL-312B)[Jet Propulsion Laboratory]
Subject: Request Extension to CESG review


    I would like to formally request a 2 week extension to the 9 current CESG document reviews. It has been difficult to find time after returning from the holidays and I believe others may have similar issues.   Several of the review documents are complex and it is important to get a thorough review.

   Kind regards,


Jonathan Wilmot
NASA/GSFC Code 582
cFS Software Architect
CCSDS SOIS Area Director

This message is intended only for the recipient(s) named above. It may contain proprietary information and/or

protected content. Any unauthorised disclosure, use, retention or dissemination is prohibited. If you have received

this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately. ESA applies appropriate organisational measures to protect

personal data, in case of data privacy queries, please contact the ESA Data Protection Officer (dpo at esa.int).
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mailman.ccsds.org/pipermail/cesg/attachments/20200115/cf0453cc/attachment-0001.htm>

More information about the CESG mailing list