[CESG] [EXTERNAL] SSG Members

Fri Feb 21 16:10:41 UTC 2020

Gippo,

In reality there is actually a pretty simple answer for that question.  The request has gone out a number of times for people to participate in the SSG.  The actual participating members are those who expressed an interest and who have been willing to attend meetings and engage in email discussions.  Dealing with the management and governance of the SANA is not exactly "glamorous", so I am really grateful to have whatever support has been provided by the active SSG members.

I would like broader participation from the other areas that are not represented, such as MOIMS, SOIS, and CSS; right now only SEA, SLS, and SIS are involved.  As major participating agencies in CCSDS I would also like at least ESA and UKSA to be represented, right now it is just NASA, CNES, DLR, and CA.

I think we all know that smaller WGs can be more nimble than larger ones, so asking for broader involvement may just slow things down.  That said, I think it would be better if all the groups that may be affected by the SANA registries were at least aware of what is going on and participated to the extent of reviewing and contributing to the work.

Related to all of this, I do have all of the inputs to the recent SANA related polls.  I will be reviewing them and providing proposed dispositions for them in the next couple of weeks.  These will be reviewed with the SSG before they are returned to the originators.

Best regards, Peter

From: Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>
Date: Friday, February 21, 2020 at 12:18 AM
To: Peter Shames <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>
Cc: CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [CESG] SSG Members

Peter,
        actually I could not remember who was the SLS representative (my fault of course) and I discover - if I am not mislead - we have two.
As of now, also considering the long discussion running for 133.0-B SPP and the wider importance of SANA, I am going to include in the SLS Plenary agenda a reporting by SLS Representatives in SSG.

However, considering that "The membership of the SANA Steering Group is determined and approved by the CMC. " I wonder how CMC managed in appointing two SLS representatives but no one for some other areas (if I am not wrong).

Regards

Gian Paolo

From:        "Shames, Peter M (US 312B)" <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>
To:        "Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int" <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>
Cc:        "CCSDS CESG --" <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>
Date:        20-02-20 21:12
Subject:        Re: [EXTERNAL] [CESG] SSG Members
________________________________

Thanks Gippo.

I think you can see that we have a good amount of agency and Area coverage, but that not all of the Areas, nor all of the "major" agency contributors to CCSDS, are engaged.  As I pointed out earlier, there is an opportunity to rectify this.

Thanks, Peter

From: Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>
Date: Thursday, February 20, 2020 at 12:49 AM
To: Peter Shames <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>
Cc: CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [CESG] SSG Members

Thank you for the hint, Peter.
I found it at https://mailman.ccsds.org/cgi-bin/mailman/roster/ssg and I copy it for other CESGers (id anybody is interested)

   audric.schiltknecht at viagenie.ca
   gilles.moury at cnes.fr
   greg.j.kazz at jpl.nasa.gov
   info at sanaregistry.org
   kelvin.nichols at nasa.gov
   marc.blanchet at viagenie.ca
   osvaldo.peinado at dlr.de
   peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov
   thomas.gannett at tgannett.net
   tomaso.decola at dlr.de

Regards

Gian Paolo

From:        "Shames, Peter M (US 312B)" <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>
To:        "Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int" <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>
Cc:        "CCSDS CESG --" <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>
Date:        19-02-20 17:09
Subject:        Re: [EXTERNAL] [CESG] SSG Members

________________________________

Hi Gippo,

Please go to the mailman.ccsds.org and explore the list directly for yourself.  That is what I would have to do to get you that answer, and that is how to learn who has signed up for any of the CCSDS mailing lists.

Thanks, Peter

From: Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>
Date: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 11:29 PM
To: Peter Shames <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>
Cc: CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [CESG] SSG Members

Peter, I am just asking the names ad I do not remember them.

Thanks

Gippo

Sent from my iPhone

On 18. Feb 2020, at 23:33, Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:

Hi Gippo,

Not sure what you are asking.  All of the "role" info that there is, is spelled out in the SANA Yellow Books.  Even the existing ones, separate from the updates in process, have this.

What exactly are you puzzled by?

Peter

From: Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>
Date: Monday, February 17, 2020 at 5:13 AM
To: Peter Shames <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>
Cc: CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [CESG] SSG Members

Peter,
      thank you for recalling us the criteria for SSG composition (see below).
As I cannot recall the details (getting old? :o), I think it would you be good for everybody if you can remember us the actual composition for each role.
Thanks

Gippo
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The membership of the SANA Steering Group consists of individuals with the following responsibilities:
•         –  SEA AD, chair;
•         –  SANA Operator (ex officio);
•         –  Secretariat (ex officio);
•         –  CMC member;
•         –  MOIMS area member;
•         –  CSS area member;
•         –  SOIS area member;
•         –  SLS area member;
•         –  SIS area member.
Members should also be chosen to ensure agency balance.
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