[CESG] [EXTERNAL] Re: CESG Approval of Revised Information Security Glossary

Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int
Tue Feb 4 10:55:53 UTC 2020


There is an additional case: terms defined in an informative annex of a 
Blue Book.   :o)

Regards

Gian Paolo



From:   "Shames, Peter M\(US 312B\) via CESG" <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>
To:     "Weiss, Howard" <Howard.Weiss at parsons.com>, "Barkley, Erik J (US 
3970)" <erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov>, "Jonathan Wilmot" 
<Jonathan.J.Wilmot at NASA.gov>
Cc:     "Space Assigned Numbers Authority" <info at sanaregistry.org>, "CCSDS 
Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec" <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>
Date:   03-02-20 20:45
Subject:        Re: [CESG] [EXTERNAL] Re: CESG Approval of Revised 
Information Security Glossary
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I would say that's a "qualified yes".  The normative documents in CCSDS 
are Blue and Magenta, and so the documents are authoritative.  The 
Glossary only contains terms that are published in CCSDS documents and it 
includes the references to those source documents.
 
The "qualified" part is that there are terms in the Glossary that were 
were pulled in from Green Books.  As such these are not normative.  So as 
long as you stick with terms from normative documents I think you are on 
safe ground.
 
Thanks, Peter
 
 
From: Howie Weiss <Howard.Weiss at parsons.com>
Date: Monday, February 3, 2020 at 11:28 AM
To: Peter Shames <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>, Erik Barkley 
<erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov>, "Wilmot, Jonathan J. (GSFC-5820)" 
<Jonathan.J.Wilmot at NASA.gov>
Cc: CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>, 
Space Assigned Numbers Authority <info at sanaregistry.org>, CCSDS 
Secretariat <secretariat at mailman.ccsds.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: CESG Approval of Revised Information Security 
Glossary
 
Peter
 
Question - in its current state, can a CCSDS document use the SANA 
glossary as a normative reference? 
 
howie
 
 

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From: Shames, Peter M (US 312B) <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>
Sent: Monday, February 3, 2020 1:15 PM
To: Barkley, Erik J (US 3970); Weiss, Howard; Jonathan Wilmot
Cc: CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec; Space Assigned Numbers 
Authority; CCSDS Secretariat
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: CESG Approval of Revised Information Security 
Glossary 
 
Guys,
 
Once this document is approved those terms will be entered into / updated 
in the SANA Terminology registry.
 
That is the process and has been for years.
 
Thanks, Peter
 
 
From: Erik Barkley <erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov>
Date: Monday, February 3, 2020 at 10:07 AM
To: Howie Weiss <Howard.Weiss at parsons.com>, "Wilmot, Jonathan J. 
(GSFC-5820)" <Jonathan.J.Wilmot at NASA.gov>
Cc: Peter Shames <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject: RE: CESG Approval of Revised Information Security Glossary
 
Howie,
 
Glad to hear you agree with getting the terms into SANA. With regard to 
getting “it” into SANA (existing glossary and/or security terms glossary – 
“it” was not quite clear to me but I assume security terms) I think that 
is something best initiated under the cognizance of the SE Area.  I’ll be 
happy to “second” any motion if need be, but I think the origin for any 
such request has to be with the SE Area. I am copying Peter on this email.
 
Best regards,
-Erik 
 
From: Weiss, Howard <Howard.Weiss at parsons.com> 
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 10:25
To: Jonathan Wilmot <Jonathan.J.Wilmot at NASA.gov>; Barkley, Erik J (US 
3970) <erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] FW: CESG Approval of Revised Information Security 
Glossary
 
Erik and Jonathan
 
I just saw your comments regarding the Information Security Glossary and I 
couldn’t agree with you more. 
 
It has always been our plan that the glossary move into SANA.  Others have 
voiced the same opinion.  However, there has been no movement.  I’ve heard 
that the existing glossary found on the SANA web site required the first 
attention since its not been reviewed or revised.  Maybe you guys can 
initiate some movement to get it into SANA?
 
Regards
 
howie
 
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Columbia, MD 21046
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From: SEA-SEC <sea-sec-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org> On Behalf Of Weiss, 
Howard
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 1:19 PM
To: 'sea-sec at mailman.ccsds.org' <sea-sec at mailman.ccsds.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Sea-sec] CESG Approval of Revised Information 
Security Glossary
 
FYI - The CESG has approved the revised Information Security Glossary:
 
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 
CESG E-Poll Identifier:  CESG-P-2019-12-004 Approval to publish CCSDS 
350.8-M-2, Information Security Glossary of Terms (Magenta Book, Issue 2) 
Results of CESG poll beginning 31 December 2019 and ending 29 January 
2020:
 
               Abstain:  0 (0%) 
Approve Unconditionally:  6 (100%) (Barkley, Merri, Shames, Burleigh, 
Moury, Wilmot) 
Approve with Conditions:  0 (0%) 
Disapprove with Comment:  0 (0%)
 
CONDITIONS/COMMENTS:
 
     Erik Barkley (Approve Unconditionally):  A comment/question (not a 
condition):  Seems like it would make sense to have this in SANA rather 
than a book -- has that been considered? In terms of normative application 
the MB could still be normative in identifying SANA registry and the 
update/governance policy.
 
     Jonathan Wilmot (Approve
Unconditionally):  I agree with Eric that glossaries would be better in 
SANA as they are living documents that will change over time.  Example: 
where would terms from BPsec be placed?
 
 
Total Respondents:  6
 
All Areas responded to this question.
 
SECRETARIAT INTERPRETATION OF RESULTS:  Approved Unconditionally
PROPOSED SECRETARIAT ACTION:            Generate CMC poll
 
 
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HOWARD WEISS, CISSP
 
PARSONS, Inc.
7110 Samuel Morse Dr, Suite 200
Columbia, MD 21046
howard.weiss at parsons.com
443-430-8089 (office) / 443-494-9087 (mobile)
 

 
 
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