[CESG] [EXTERNAL] Fw: [Cesg-all] Results of CMC Polls

Margherita.di.Giulio at esa.int Margherita.di.Giulio at esa.int
Fri Aug 28 15:34:10 UTC 2020


Dear Peter,
The comment form Jaxa states:
Section 6.1.4.4 (Page 6-5) states "…Blue Books are required to be 
prototyped before final approval and publication…"  Resources of Prototype 
1 and Prototype 2 are "Not required" for this 5-year review, however, 
there is no statement in the CCSDS A02.1-Y-4 whether the prototype tests 
are required for the New Projects of the 5-year review.  Will the 
necessity be identified in the course of the review process?
I agree that the matter is already covered in CCSDS YB, Org & Proc, h
owever, may be a simple change to the text would avoid misunderstanding in 
the future. For instance (in red):
6.1.4.4   As  a  result  of  this  difference  in  prescriptive  content 
between  Blue  and  Magenta  books,  Blue  Books  are  required  to  be 
prototyped  before  final  approval  and  publication,  but  Magenta Books 
are not required to be prototyped. This applies also to updates of Blue 
Books, if/when new features are introduced. 

6.2.7.2.1.1  Revisions of published normative documents shall follow the 
procedures in 6.2.2 and 6.2.6.
Concerning the question from Jaxa “….Will the necessity be identified in 
the course of the review process?”, I think the answer is that the 
necessity of prototyping can only be identified at the time the new 
project gets established, in that the relevant resources must be 
identified – and requested - via project approval. Therefore, this 
necessity cannot be identified during the review process.
Kind regards,
Margherita


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Margherita di Giulio
Ground Station Systems Division
Backend Software Section (OPS-GSB)


European Space Agency ESA/ESOC
Robert-Bosch-Str. 5
D-64293 Darmstadt - Germany
Tel: +49-6151-902779
e-mail: Margherita.di.Giulio at esa.int





From:   "Shames, Peter M (US 312B)" <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>
To:     "Margherita.di.Giulio at esa.int" <Margherita.di.Giulio at esa.int>
Cc:     "CESG -- CCSDS-Engineering 
SteeringGroup(cesg at mailman.ccsds.org)(cesg at mailman.ccsds.org)" 
<cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>
Date:   27/08/2020 02:02
Subject:        Re: [EXTERNAL] Fw: [Cesg-all] Results of CMC Polls



Dear Margherita,
 
This is already covered in the CCSDS YB, org & Proc, under the subject of 
"Periodic Review":
6.2.7 PERIODIC REVIEW 
6.2.7.1 General 
CCSDS documents shall undergo periodic review within the Area no later 
than five years after issue and every five years subsequently. Periodic 
review shall result in reconfirmation, revision, or retirement to CCSDS 
historical status. 
If the document is just reconfirmed then there is no need for a new 
protoyping effort.  If the document is revised in any significant way, 
especially is there are any changes to protocols, behavior, PDUs, data 
formats, signaling, then that falls under the "Revisions" clause:
6.2.7.2 Changes to Documents 
6.2.7.2.1 Revisions of Normative Documents 
6.2.7.2.1.1 Revisions of published normative documents shall follow the 
procedures in 6.2.2. 
6.2.7.2.1.2 The color designation for draft revisions of normative 
documents shall be “Pink” (rather than “Red”). 
6.2.7.2.1.3 In cases where only limited discrete changes are proposed to a 
published normative document, only the pages containing substantive 
changes (“Pink Sheets”) may be released for review. 
The procedures in sec 6.2.2 are those for normal, normative, document 
processing, which include prototyping and generation of a test report.  I 
believe that this is all clearly enough stated and that no changes to 
CCSDS A02.1-Y-4 are needed.
 
Do you concur?
 
Thanks, Peter
 
 
From: "Margherita.di.Giulio at esa.int" <Margherita.di.Giulio at esa.int>
Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 7:16 AM
To: Peter Shames <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>
Cc: CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Fw: [Cesg-all] Results of CMC Polls
 
Dear Peter, 
the attached notification contains two comments  from Jaxa, where they 
query about Prototype activities for Blue Books under 5-years review : the 
point they make is that CCSDS A02.1-Y-4 does not explicitly mandate 
prototype testing for  books under 5-years review. Is this need to be 
established  e.g. during the review process itself ? 

Can you please take a look at the comment ? In case some text needs to be 
introduced in  CCSDS A02.1-Y-4, can you propose something to CESG ? 
Thank you, kind regards,
Margherita 

--------------------------------------------------------------
Margherita di Giulio 
Ground Station Systems Division 
Backend Software Section (OPS-GSB) 


European Space Agency ESA/ESOC
Robert-Bosch-Str. 5
D-64293 Darmstadt - Germany
Tel: +49-6151-902779
e-mail: Margherita.di.Giulio at esa.int


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From:        "Stafford Laura (BTAS)" <Laura.Stafford at btas.com> 
To:        "Blackwood, Michael D via CMC" <CMC at mailman.ccsds.org> 
Cc:        "Blackwood, Michael D via CESG-All" 
<cesg-all at mailman.ccsds.org> 
Date:        25/08/2020 18:19 
Subject:        [Cesg-all] Results of CMC Polls 
Sent by:        "CESG-All" <cesg-all-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org> 




CMC E-Poll Identifier: CMC-P-2020-07-002 
Approval of New Projects in the 5.04 Space Link Protocols WG

Results of CMC poll beginning 7 July 2020 and ending 21 July 2020:

Adopt:  8 (100%) (CNES, CNSA, CSA, DLR, ESA, INPE, JAXA, NASA)
Adopt Provisionally:  0 (0%)
Reject:  0 (0%)
Reject with Comments:  0 (0%)

Results are based on responses from 8 out of 11 members (72.72%).

No response was received from the following Agencies:

ASI 
RFSA 
UKSA 

Comments from JAXA: 
This comment(/inquiry) is not for this 5-year review Project, but the 
CCSDS A02.1-Y-4.

Section 6.1.4.4 (Page 6-5) states "…Blue Books are required to be 
prototyped before final approval and publication…"  Resources of Prototype 
1 and Prototype 2 are "Not required" for this 5-year review, however, 
there is no statement in the CCSDS A02.1-Y-4 whether the prototype tests 
are required for the New Projects of the 5-year review.  Will the 
necessity be identified in the course of the review process?

Secretariat Interpretation of Results:  Adopted
Resulting CMC Resolution:                 CMC-R-2020-08-008
Inferred Secretariat Action:                 Approve Project - Done & 
Working Group Chair address Comments from JAXA. 

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

CMC E-Poll Identifier: CMC-P-2020-07-003 
Approval of New Project in the 5.09 Space Data Link Security WG

Results of CMC poll beginning 7 July 2020 and ending 21 July 2020:

Adopt:  8 (100%) (CNES, CNSA, CSA, DLR, ESA, INPE, JAXA, NASA)
Adopt Provisionally:  0 (0%)
Reject:  0 (0%)
Reject with Comments:  0 (0%)

Results are based on responses from 8 out of 11 members (72.72%).

No response was received from the following Agencies:

ASI 
RFSA 
UKSA 

Comments from JAXA: 
This comment(/inquiry) is not for this 5-year review Project, but the 
CCSDS A02.1-Y-4.

Section 6.1.4.4 (Page 6-5) states "…Blue Books are required to be 
prototyped before final approval and publication…"  Resources of Prototype 
1 and Prototype 2 are "Not required" for this 5-year review, however, 
there is no statement in the CCSDS A02.1-Y-4 whether the prototype tests 
are required for the New Projects of the 5-year review.  Will the 
necessity be identified in the course of the review process?

Secretariat Interpretation of Results:  Adopted
Resulting CMC Resolution:                 CMC-R-2020-08-009
Inferred Secretariat Action:                 Approve Project - Done & 
Working Group Chair address Comments from JAXA. 


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 
CMC E-Poll Identifier: CMC-P-2020-07-004 
CESG Escalation to CMC about Unresolved CESG Poll

Results of CMC poll beginning 15 July 2020 and ending 29 July 2020:

Adopt:  8 (100%) (CNES, CNSA, CSA, DLR, ESA, INPE, JAXA, NASA, UKSA)
Adopt Provisionally:  0 (0%)
Reject:  0 (0%)
Reject with Comments:  0 (0%)

Results are based on responses from 9 out of 11 members (81.81%).

No response was received from the following Agencies:

ASI 
RFSA 

Comments from ESA: 
​ESA agree to release the book for Agency Review

Secretariat Interpretation of Results:  Adopted
Resulting CMC Resolution:                 CMC-R-2020-08-010
Inferred Secretariat Action:                 The Poll conditions raised by 
the ADs shall be removed, and the book CCSDS 131.3-P-1.1, shall go ahead 
to Agency Review. 

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 

CMC E-Poll Identifier: CMC-P-2020-06-005 
CMC-P-2020-06-005 Charter Modification for the Multispectral Hyperspectral 
Data Compression (SLS-MHDC) Working Group

Results of CMC poll beginning 25 June 2020 and ending 9 July 2020:

Adopt:  8 (100%) (ASI, CNES, CNSA, CSA, DLR, ESA, INPE, JAXA,)
Adopt Provisionally:  0 (0%)
Reject:  0 (0%)
Reject with Comments:  0 (0%)

Results are based on responses from 8 out of 11 members (72.72%).

No response was received from the following Agencies:

NASA 
RFSA 
UKSA 

Secretariat Interpretation of Results:  Adopted
Resulting CMC Resolution:                 CMC-R-2020-08-011
Inferred Secretariat Action:                 Approve Charter Once WG Chair 
Makes Edits - Done 





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