[CESG] Your remark on SLS: [EXTERNAL] CESG Meeting on 25 Oct . - Draft MoM

Thu Nov 14 11:11:38 UTC 2019

Peter,
        first of all I fail understanding how spamming the rest of CESG 
can help our discussion, but never mind.
Second, Margherita's sentence you comment does not state that SLP 
protocols need to be changed bur it rather puts accent on the impact on 
the "architecture stack".
Nobody in SLS Area Plenary meeting as well as (two) CESG Meetings 
mentioned adding data types or anything else to Space Data Link Protocols.

Moreover, I do not "invite the whole of SLS WG into this discussion" and 
this is NOT what I "wish to do".
Gilles and I simply reported the result of the discussion in the SLS 
Plenary.

Having said this, despite I think Margherita correctly captured the 
substance of the SLS reporting,  the only correction I think would be 
acceptable to that sentence is the following:
However, introducing the Generic Framing Procedure entails matters 
affecting architecture stack, code & synch, protocols. 

That's all on my side and will not comment further on this as the ball is 
now in the field of (some) SLS WGs for proper discussion.

Regards

Gian Paolo

From:   "Shames, Peter M (US 312B)" <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>
To:     "Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int" <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>
Cc:     "Margherita.di.Giulio at esa.int" <Margherita.di.Giulio at esa.int>, 
"Gilles Moury" <Gilles.Moury at cnes.fr>, "CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - 
CESG Exec" <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>
Date:   12-11-19 19:16
Subject:        Re: Your remark on SLS: [CESG] [EXTERNAL]  CESG Meeting on 
25 Oct . - Draft MoM

Gippo,

What is stated in inaccurate by any measure since GFP does not have 
anything to say about space data link protocols.  The only relationship 
that could possibly exist in the future would be to add another data type 
(or four) to the link layer protocols that GFP would formally recognize. 
This requires no changes to those protocols, which is, in fact, a feature 
of GFP.

I'm not suggesting that you should not invite the whole of SLS WG into 
this discussion is that is what you wish to do.  I am asking that we all 
not make statements that are confusing and inaccurate.  The whole purpose 
of sending out the MoM and asking for feedback is to avoid such issues.

Regards, Peter

From: Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>
Date: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 at 2:50 AM
To: Peter Shames <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>
Cc: "Margherita.di.Giulio at esa.int" <Margherita.di.Giulio at esa.int>, Gilles 
Moury <Gilles.Moury at cnes.fr>
Subject: Your remark on SLS: [CESG] [EXTERNAL] CESG Meeting on 25 Oct . - 
Draft MoM

Peter, 
        with respect to your comment in the attached snapshot, I propose 
to do NO update to the MoMs also to avoid another useless saga on updates 
to updates to updates. 
The natter will be properly discussed in SLS and this is the important 
message conveyed by the MoMs 

Regards 

Gian Paolo 

From:        "Shames, Peter M\(US 312B\) via CESG" 
<cesg at mailman.ccsds.org> 
To:        "Margherita.di.Giulio at esa.int" <Margherita.di.Giulio at esa.int>, 
"cesg at mailman.ccsds.org" <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org> 
Date:        11-11-19 20:09 
Subject:        Re: [CESG] [EXTERNAL]  CESG Meeting on 25 Oct . - Draft 
MoM 
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[attachment "d 0.1 CESG-Fall 19 Minutes of Meeting_ DRAFT-SEA.docx" 
deleted by Gian Paolo Calzolari/esoc/ESA] 
Hi Margherita,

I had a few minutes free and have provided my feedback early, for a 
change.

Cheers, Peter

From: CESG <cesg-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org> on behalf of 
"Margherita.di.Giulio at esa.int" <Margherita.di.Giulio at esa.int>
Date: Monday, November 11, 2019 at 8:12 AM
To: CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [CESG] CESG Meeting on 25 Oct . - Draft MoM

Dear All, 
please find attached the draft Minute of Meeting of CESG Meeting on 25th 
October at ESOC. 
Let me have your comments by 20th November. 
If you edit the MoM, please use track changes. 

Kind regards
Margherita 

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