<span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Peter,</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">
first of all I fail understanding how spamming the
rest of CESG can help our discussion, but never mind.</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Second, Margherita's
sentence you comment does not state that SLP protocols need to be changed
bur it rather puts accent on the impact on the "architecture stack".</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Nobody in SLS
Area Plenary meeting as well as (two) CESG Meetings mentioned adding data
types or anything else to Space Data Link Protocols.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Moreover, I do
not "</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">invite
the whole of SLS WG into this discussion</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">"
and this is NOT what I "</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">wish
to do</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">".</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Gilles and I simply
reported the result of the discussion in the SLS Plenary.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Having said this,
despite I think Margherita correctly captured the substance of the SLS
reporting, the only correction I think would be acceptable to that
sentence is the following:</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:14pt;color:blue;font-family:Times New Roman">However,
</span><span style=" font-size:14pt;color:red;font-family:Times New Roman">introducing
</span><span style=" font-size:14pt;color:blue;font-family:Times New Roman">the
Generic Framing Procedure entails matters affecting architecture stack,
code & synch, protocols. </span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">That's all on
my side and will not comment further on this as the ball is now in the
field of (some) SLS WGs for proper discussion.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Regards</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif">Gian Paolo</span>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">From:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Shames,
Peter M (US 312B)" <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">To:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int"
<Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Cc:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int"
<Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int>, "Gilles Moury" <Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr>,
"CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec" <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Date:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">12-11-19
19:16</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Subject:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Re:
Your remark on SLS: [CESG] [EXTERNAL] CESG Meeting on 25 Oct . -
Draft MoM</span>
<br>
<hr noshade>
<br>
<br>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Gippo,</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">What
is stated in inaccurate by any measure since GFP does not have anything
to say about space data link protocols. The only relationship that
could possibly exist in the future would be to add another data type (or
four) to the link layer protocols that GFP would formally recognize. This
requires no changes to those protocols, which is, in fact, a feature of
GFP.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">I'm
not suggesting that you should not invite the whole of SLS WG into this
discussion is that is what you wish to do. I am asking that we all
not make statements that are confusing and inaccurate. The whole
purpose of sending out the MoM and asking for feedback is to avoid such
issues.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Regards,
Peter</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>From:
</b>Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int><b><br>
Date: </b>Tuesday, November 12, 2019 at 2:50 AM<b><br>
To: </b>Peter Shames <peter.m.shames@jpl.nasa.gov><b><br>
Cc: </b>"Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int" <Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int>,
Gilles Moury <Gilles.Moury@cnes.fr><b><br>
Subject: </b>Your remark on SLS: [CESG] [EXTERNAL] CESG Meeting on 25 Oct
. - Draft MoM</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">Peter,</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
with respect to your comment in the attached
snapshot, I propose to do NO update to the MoMs also to avoid another useless
saga on updates to updates to updates.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
The natter will be properly discussed in SLS and this is the important
message conveyed by the MoMs</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Regards</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> <br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Gian Paolo</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> <br>
<br>
<br>
</span><img src=cid:_1_0A01FCE40F69ADC4003D7D03C12584B2 style="border:0px solid;"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
From: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Shames,
Peter M\(US 312B\) via CESG" <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
To: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int"
<Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int>, "cesg@mailman.ccsds.org"
<cesg@mailman.ccsds.org></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Date: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">11-11-19
20:09</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Subject: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">Re:
[CESG] [EXTERNAL] CESG Meeting on 25 Oct . - Draft MoM</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:Arial"><br>
Sent by: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">"CESG"
<cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org></span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span></p>
<div align=center>
<hr noshade></div>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
[attachment "d 0.1 CESG-Fall 19 Minutes of Meeting_ DRAFT-SEA.docx"
deleted by Gian Paolo Calzolari/esoc/ESA] </span></p>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt">Hi Margherita,</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt">I had a few minutes free and have provided
my feedback early, for a change.</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt">Cheers, Peter</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt"><b>From: </b>CESG <cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org>
on behalf of "Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int" <Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int><b><br>
Date: </b>Monday, November 11, 2019 at 8:12 AM<b><br>
To: </b>CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org><b><br>
Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] [CESG] CESG Meeting on 25 Oct . - Draft MoM</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span>
<br><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">Dear All,</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
please find attached the draft Minute of Meeting of CESG Meeting on 25th
October at ESOC.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Let me have your comments by 20th November. <br>
If you edit the MoM, please use track changes.</span><span style=" font-size:12pt">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
<br>
Kind regards<br>
Margherita </span><span style=" font-size:12pt"><br>
<br>
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
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