[CESG] CESG Telecon 5th September - Minute of Meeting

Mario.Merri at esa.int Mario.Merri at esa.int
Mon Oct 1 15:44:06 UTC 2018


Hi Peter,

I think your new text confuses the situation, which is well explained in 
the text above, i.e.

"CESG concluded that ESA, CNES, and DLR members of the SM&C WG would 
produce a Technical Note containing the analysis of the overlap." This 
sentence is clear and faithfully describes what had happened. On the other 
hand, your proposed change, i.e.

"The CESG discussed the fact that the SM&C WG had not reached consensus on 
this issue before sending the document to the CESG ... Both of these 
actions are outside the norm of CCSDS procedures." is not clear and seems 
to contradict the sentence above.

>From the sentence above, it is clear that there was no consensus in the 
SM&C WG, yet the CESG instructed the MOIMS AD to have the TN produced by 
ESA, CNES, and DLR to elaborate on the alleged overlapping. This seems to 
me a prerogative of the CESG and as such within the norm of the CCSDS 
procedures. This is what happened and we should not confuse the matter.

I propose to delete your proposed additions.

Regards,

__Mario


From:   "Shames, Peter M (312B)" <Peter.M.Shames at jpl.nasa.gov>
To:     "Margherita.di.Giulio at esa.int" <Margherita.di.Giulio at esa.int>, 
"cesg at mailman.ccsds.org" <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>
Date:   01/10/2018 16:58
Subject:        Re: [CESG] CESG Telecon  5th September -  Minute of 
Meeting
Sent by:        "CESG" <cesg-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org>



Dear Margherita,
 
I see that you have made some additional edits to the Final_D_1 version of 
the MoM for the 5 Sept telecon.  I believe that these are not yet 
accurate, and since these minutes seem to be treated as the Gospel I think 
they need to reflect what actually occurred during the meeting.
 
Please see attached edits.  We did discuss these quite out of the norm 
processes, but we did not reach a conclusion as to how they were to be 
resolved.  I believe that we are in agreement that we shall continue to 
follow our written and agreed procedures, and that if we wish to change 
them we shall follow the process for doing that instead of just making up 
new ones procedures on the fly.
 
Thanks, Peter
 
 
From: CESG <cesg-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org> on behalf of 
"Margherita.di.Giulio at esa.int" <Margherita.di.Giulio at esa.int>
Date: Monday, October 1, 2018 at 7:05 AM
To: CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>
Subject: [CESG] CESG Telecon 5th September - Minute of Meeting
 
Dear All, 
please find attached the Minute of Meeting from the CESG Telecon held on 
5th September. 
This file is also available on CWE at 

https://cwe.ccsds.org/cesg/docs/CWE%20Private/Meetings/2018%20-%20Spring%20Meeting%20Gaithersburgh%2C%20MD%2C%20USA/CESG%20Meeting%2C%2016th%20April%202018/CESG%20Telecon%205th%20September%202018_Notes%20Final_D_1.docx 


Kind regards,
Margherita 




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