<span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial">Hi Peter,</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial">I think your new text
confuses the situation, which is well explained in the text above, i.e.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial">"CESG concluded
that ESA, CNES, and DLR members of the SM&C WG would produce a Technical
Note containing the analysis of the overlap." This sentence is clear
and faithfully describes what had happened. On the other hand, your proposed
change, i.e.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial">"The CESG discussed
the fact that the SM&C WG had not reached consensus on this issue before
sending the document to the CESG ... Both of these actions are outside
the norm of CCSDS procedures." is not clear and seems to contradict
the sentence above.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial">From the sentence above,
it is clear that there was no consensus in the SM&C WG, yet the CESG
instructed the MOIMS AD to have the TN produced by ESA, CNES, and DLR to
elaborate on the alleged overlapping. This seems to me a prerogative of
the CESG and as such within the norm of the CCSDS procedures. This is what
happened and we should not confuse the matter.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial">I propose to delete
your proposed additions.</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial">Regards,</span>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial">__Mario</span>
<br>
<br>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">From:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Shames,
Peter M (312B)" <Peter.M.Shames@jpl.nasa.gov></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">To:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int"
<Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int>, "cesg@mailman.ccsds.org"
<cesg@mailman.ccsds.org></span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Date:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">01/10/2018
16:58</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Subject:
</span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">Re:
[CESG] CESG Telecon 5th September - Minute of Meeting</span>
<br><span style=" font-size:9pt;color:#5f5f5f;font-family:sans-serif">Sent
by: </span><span style=" font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif">"CESG"
<cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org></span>
<br>
<hr noshade>
<br>
<br>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Dear
Margherita,</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">I
see that you have made some additional edits to the Final_D_1 version of
the MoM for the 5 Sept telecon. I believe that these are not yet
accurate, and since these minutes seem to be treated as the Gospel I think
they need to reflect what actually occurred during the meeting.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Please
see attached edits. We did discuss these quite out of the norm processes,
but we did not reach a conclusion as to how they were to be resolved. I
believe that we are in agreement that we shall continue to follow our written
and agreed procedures, and that if we wish to change them we shall follow
the process for doing that instead of just making up new ones procedures
on the fly.</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">Thanks,
Peter</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><b>From:
</b>CESG <cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org> on behalf of "Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int"
<Margherita.di.Giulio@esa.int><b><br>
Date: </b>Monday, October 1, 2018 at 7:05 AM<b><br>
To: </b>CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg@mailman.ccsds.org><b><br>
Subject: </b>[CESG] CESG Telecon 5th September - Minute of Meeting</span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:0px"><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-Bottom:240px"><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">Dear
All,</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
please find attached the Minute of Meeting from the CESG Telecon held on
5th September.</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
This file is also available on CWE at </span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;color:blue;font-family:Calibri"><u><br>
</u></span><a href="https://cwe.ccsds.org/cesg/docs/CWE%20Private/Meetings/2018%20-%20Spring%20Meeting%20Gaithersburgh%2C%20MD%2C%20USA/CESG%20Meeting%2C%2016th%20April%202018/CESG%20Telecon%205th%20September%202018_Notes%20Final_D_1.docx"><span style=" font-size:10pt;color:blue;font-family:Arial"><u>https://cwe.ccsds.org/cesg/docs/CWE%20Private/Meetings/2018%20-%20Spring%20Meeting%20Gaithersburgh%2C%20MD%2C%20USA/CESG%20Meeting%2C%2016th%20April%202018/CESG%20Telecon%205th%20September%202018_Notes%20Final_D_1.docx</u></span></a><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri">
<br>
</span><span style=" font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"><br>
Kind regards,<br>
Margherita</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"> <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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</span><span style=" font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri"><br>
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