[CESG] Resolution CSS-R-2018-11-001
Barkley, Erik J (3970)
Erik.J.Barkley at jpl.nasa.gov
Thu Dec 6 06:47:01 UTC 2018
Dear Margherita,
Taking a look at CCSDS A02.1-Y-4 (ORGANIZATION AND PROCESSES FOR THE CONSULTATIVE COMMITTEE FOR SPACE DATA SYSTEMS, April 2014, Corrigendum 2, January 2016), there is a section on project creation, and under this section it states:
“5.5.2.1.3 Projects shall be subject to approval by the AD and authorization by the CMC via polling”.
Given this statement, I indeed have erred in the statement of the resolution and I will update the resolution as follows: FROM: “…project creation…” TO: “…project authorization by the CMC…” Thank you for pointing out the error.
With regard to including the link to the draft project, I will note that I have never seen such a link in a resolution, the latest example of which (without inclusion of a link to the draft project definition) is attached for reference. I think that in fact this is not required as the CWE framework includes a button, which when selected, is supposed to send the draft project definition to the CMC for project authorization (a screenshot is shown below). And indeed this button/check mark has been selected for some time re this project authorization.
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With regard to our statement “…However, I consider that the changes to the CSTS Framework cannot be regarded as routine review, therefore I still recommend that a Concept Paper gets produced…”
I respectfully disagree. I think the review of this should in fact be routine – it must be go through the normal channels re project authorization, subsequent agency review, etc.
Given that
a) Current procedures do not mandate a concept paper (“Concept papers defining new projects should be submitted to the AD..” – not “shall” as we have already noted)
b) Projects are “…subject to approval by the AD and authorization by the CMC…”
My conclusion is that all the required steps are being followed here and that this is in fact routine business for CCSDS.
I believe what you have stated in your last paragraph about there may be changes in the Orgs & Procs and that requirements for concept papers may be forthcoming is a fine topic for further discussion. However, there is at this time, no consensus on making any such changes to the Orgs and Procs. As such I believe that CCSDS shall operate per current procedures to the best of our abilities. If CMC so desires, additional material beyond the project description can be provided upon CMC request.
Best regards,
-Erik
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Subject: RE: [CESG] Resolution CSS-R-2018-11-001
Dear Erik,
My reply was based on the last sentence of your resolution stating:
“…REQUESTS that the CCSDS Secretariat initiate polling for project creation”
The wording for that part of the resolution should have been , e.g. :
“and REQUESTS that the CCSDS Secretariat initiate polling for project creation approval by CMC”
given that the Draft Project had been created in CWE (like you did). The relevant link should have been provided together with the resolution.
Concerning the Concept Paper, I am fully aware that it was addressed at the CESG meeting in Berlin, notably the issue with the “should” (not “shall”) in the Org and Procs books.
However, I consider that the changes to the CSTS Framework cannot be regarded as routine review, therefore I still recommend that a Concept Paper gets produced.
The fact that the CMC has been briefed on this upcoming new project is, in my view, not suitable to help them in the approval decision. In fact, that kind of info is provided for many (granted, not all) new projects during a CMC meeting, and I assume it would not be easy for CMC members to go back to the presentation(s) from previous meeting(s). The Concept Paper, instead, will be available to the CMC at the time of the Poll, providing all Project’s information. Also, the Concept Paper establishes the “boundary” of the changes, such that, after the project has been initiated, one cannot inject other changes that had not been agreed up-front (not happening normally, but sometimes it does).
That said, I think that a Concept Paper – in the way it is envisaged in the Org & Porc - can be produced in one hour of work by the author of the book, and it may consist of just one/two pages of text (see contents of Concept Paper at 6.1.3.2.1 of Org & Proc) . Consequently, the effort required for producing that paper is not competing with the resources required for other activities.
Last (but not least) the kind of discussion we are having confirms what was addressed at the Berlin meeting, that is, there may be changes required to the Org & Proc in order to come to a formulation of Concept Paper’ s requirements that will be shared by all CESG members.
Kind regards
Margherita
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Margherita di Giulio
Ground Station Systems Division
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Date: 27/11/2018 18:28
Subject: RE: [CESG] Resolution CSS-R-2018-11-001
________________________________
Dear Margherita,
The draft project already exists (it was created on October 23rd) and can be found here: http://cwe.ccsds.org/fm/Lists/Projects/DispFormDraft.aspx?ID=667&Source=http://cwe.ccsds.org/fm/Lists/Projects/AllOpenChartersWithDraftProjects.aspx
The new project requires no resources as the work is already done. Per the description in the draft project: “Updates needed to the CSTS Specification Framework (SFW) for supporting Forward Frame CSTS. This is a pink sheet/pink book update project. Per 2018 Spring Meetings and as noted during CESG report to CMC, prototyping for frame work updates will be covered by FF-CSTS prototyping.” The milestones are for the usual CCSDS review and publication cycles.
The Org and Procs books does not require a concept paper. Here is what it says (“should”, not “shall”)
“…6.1.3.3.5 Concept papers defining new projects should be submitted to the AD as part of the project approval process and should be included with the materials provided during CMC polling…”
The CMC has been briefed on this as reported at the Spring 2018 meetings and also at the Fall 2018 meetings. (Please see discussion about utilizing the FF-CSTS prototype to support prototyping the modifications need in the CSTS SFW – especially in the Spring 2018 presentation to CMC).
Granted, this is technically a new project, but not conceptually. I did not and do not think that updates to support FF-CSTS merit a concept paper as this is not defining any new concept, but rather technical adjustments to allow support for the behavior required for FF-CSTS. Therefore, assuming I have some discretion as an AD, my choice is not require this additional effort. If you wish, I shall ask the working group chair to prepare a concept paper to submit to me so that I may review it per the Org and Procs as indicated above. Please be advised that in the end it is CMC that approves projects, not CESG – as such I do not want to presume that CMC really want to read a concept paper. I think a more productive course of action will be to ensure that currently in progress CSTS concept book has whatever minor sentence or two is needed. Please advise if you still wish to have a concept paper.
Best regards,
-Erik
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Subject: Re: [CESG] Resolution CSS-R-2018-11-001
Dear Erik,
you should first create your draft project in the CWE Framework. The Project shall, between others, identify the resources required for the project - in your case, the resources have already done the editing work. The dates for the various milestones shall be put very close to each other for the part of the work that has already been done. Once completed the editing work, the Book will be submitted to Agency Review (I assume this will be the Blue Book 2.). The relevant dates shall also be entered in the draft project.
Also, you should determine if the new project requires resources for prototyping - depending on the kind of changes, it may be required to do delta-prototyping
Once the draft project has been created, it will be submitted to poll for CMC approval ( not CESG).
Notice that every new project shall be be complemented by a "Concept Paper", as prescribed in the Org & Proc book, (https://public.ccsds.org/Pubs/A02x1y4c2.pdf<https://public.ccsds.org/Pubs/A02x1y4c2.pdf>)
This shall be a concise piece of text, to outline the nature of the changes. Also, it shall explain if, depending on the envisaged changes, prototyping is - or is not - required.
In your resolution for CMC approval, please provide :
- the link to the draft project
- the Concept Paper, to make it available to the CMC to support their decision.
Kind regards,
Margherita
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Margherita di Giulio
European Space Agency ESA/ESOC
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Date: 26/11/2018 21:40
Subject: [CESG] Resolution CSS-R-2018-11-001
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CCSDS Secretariat, CESG Chairs,
Attached and also listed below please find the resolution for the creation of a formal project for update of the CSTS Specification Framework. Note that this is essentially a formality as the work to complete the updates for the CSTS Framework has already been completed.
Best regards,
-Erik
CSS-R-2018-11-001, Resolution concerning project creation for update of Cross Support Transfer Service – Specification Framework
The CSS Area,
CONSIDERING that the CROSS SUPPORT TRANSFER SERVICE – SPECIFICATION FRAMEWORK, CCSDS 921.1-B-1, (“the recommendation”) is a published recommended standard of CCSDS;
and RECOGNIZING that the recommendation is the basis for Cross Support Transfer Services and therefore must be revised as new required service capabilities are identified;
and RECOGNIZING that the CSTS WG has completed revisions for the recommendation to support new service capabilities identified for the Forward Frame Cross Support Transfer Service;
and NOTING that, per the formal procedures of CCSDS that a project for updating the recommendation is needed;
RESOLVES to create the formal project for update of the recommendation;
and REQUESTS that the CCSDS Secretariat initiate polling for project creation.
[End Resolution]
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