[CESG] CESG-P-2017-07-002 Conditions

Tue Nov 7 09:58:29 UTC 2017

Dear CESG Members:

Conditions for approval of CESG-P-2017-07-002 Approval to release CCSDS 141.0-R-1, Optical Communications Physical Layer (Red Book, Issue 1) for CCSDS Agency review have been resolved to the satisfaction of the ADs who voted to approve with conditions. The Secretariat will now proceed with CMC polling.

From: Tomaso.deCola at dlr.de [mailto:Tomaso.deCola at dlr.de] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 10:41 AM
To: Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int
Cc: braatz_lena at bah.com; Gilles.Moury at cnes.fr; Klaus-Juergen.Schulz at esa.int; jon.hamkins at jpl.nasa.gov; bernard.l.edwards at nasa.gov; thomas.gannett at tgannett.net; peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov; Erik.Barkley at jpl.nasa.gov
Subject: RE: SLS-OPT WG: responses to CESG poll conditions on Optical Physical Layer draft red book

As far as I’m concerned, I’m happy with answers given to my points.

Tomaso

From: Barkley, Erik J (3970) [mailto:erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 12:42 PM
To: Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int; Shames, Peter M (312B) <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>; Tomaso de Cola <Tomaso.deCola at dlr.de>
Cc: Lena Braatz <braatz_lena at bah.com>; Gilles Moury <Gilles.Moury at cnes.fr>; Klaus-Juergen.Schulz at esa.int; Hamkins, Jon (3320) <jon.hamkins at jpl.nasa.gov>; Edwards, Bernard L. (GSFC-5600) <bernard.l.edwards at nasa.gov>; Tom Gannett <thomas.gannett at tgannett.net>
Subject: RE: SLS-OPT WG: responses to CESG poll conditions on Optical Physical Layer draft red book

Gian Paolo,

My apologies for the delay.  My conditions have been satisfied. 

Best regards,

-Erik 

From:  <mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int> Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int [ <mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int> mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 9:13 AM
To: Shames, Peter M (312B) < <mailto:peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov> peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>; Barkley, Erik J (3970) < <mailto:erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov> erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov>; Tomaso de Cola < <mailto:Tomaso.deCola at dlr.de> Tomaso.deCola at dlr.de>
Cc: Lena Braatz < <mailto:braatz_lena at bah.com> braatz_lena at bah.com>; Gilles Moury < <mailto:Gilles.Moury at cnes.fr> Gilles.Moury at cnes.fr>;  <mailto:Klaus-Juergen.Schulz at esa.int> Klaus-Juergen.Schulz at esa.int; Hamkins, Jon (3320) < <mailto:jon.hamkins at jpl.nasa.gov> jon.hamkins at jpl.nasa.gov>; Edwards, Bernard L. (GSFC-5600) < <mailto:bernard.l.edwards at nasa.gov> bernard.l.edwards at nasa.gov>; Tom Gannett < <mailto:thomas.gannett at tgannett.net> thomas.gannett at tgannett.net>
Subject: SLS-OPT WG: responses to CESG poll conditions on Optical Physical Layer draft red book

Dear All, 
        please find here attached the SLS-OPT WG: responses to CESG poll conditions on Optical Physical Layer draft red book 

Thank you for your check and confirmation of the accomplishment of the conditions at your earliest convenience. 

Gian Paolo 

From: "Shames, Peter M (312B)" <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov <mailto:peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov> >
Date: 6. November 2017 at 17:41:33 CET
To: "Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int <mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int> " <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int <mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int> >
Cc: "Edwards, Bernard L. (GSFC-567.0)" <bernard.l.edwards at nasa.gov <mailto:bernard.l.edwards at nasa.gov> >, "Klaus-Juergen.Schulz at esa.int <mailto:Klaus-Juergen.Schulz at esa.int> " <Klaus-Juergen.Schulz at esa.int <mailto:Klaus-Juergen.Schulz at esa.int> >,  "Hamkins, Jon (3320)" <jon.hamkins at jpl.nasa.gov <mailto:jon.hamkins at jpl.nasa.gov> >, "Nestor.Peccia at esa.int <mailto:Nestor.Peccia at esa.int> " <Nestor.Peccia at esa.int <mailto:Nestor.Peccia at esa.int> >,  "Gilles Moury" <Gilles.Moury at cnes.fr <mailto:Gilles.Moury at cnes.fr> >
Subject: Re: SLS-OPT WG: responses to CESG poll conditions on Optical Physical Layer draft red book

Dear all, 

I accept the changes as stated.  

Thanks, Peter 

Sent from Peter's JPL iPhone 7 

Everything should be made as simple as possible, 

but not simpler.  

~Albert Einstein

On Nov 6, 2017, at 4:22 PM, "Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int <mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int> " <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int <mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int> > wrote:

Peter, 
        can you please confirm that all conditions are now accomplished with this further reply from October 25? 
Thanks 

Gian Paolo 

From:        Jon Hamkins < <mailto:jon.hamkins at jpl.nasa.gov> jon.hamkins at jpl.nasa.gov> 
To:        "Shames, Peter M (312B)" < <mailto:peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov> peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov> 
Cc:        " <mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int> Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int" < <mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int> Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>, "Edwards, Bernard L. (GSFC-567.0)" < <mailto:bernard.l.edwards at nasa.gov> bernard.l.edwards at nasa.gov>, " <mailto:Klaus-Juergen.Schulz at esa.int> Klaus-Juergen.Schulz at esa.int" < <mailto:Klaus-Juergen.Schulz at esa.int> Klaus-Juergen.Schulz at esa.int> 
Date:        25/10/2017 01:16 
Subject:        Re: SLS-OPT WG: responses to CESG poll conditions on Optical Physical Layer draft red book 

  _____  

Peter,

At the Optical Working Group teleconference this morning, I reviewed 
your remaining three unsatisfied conditions (the blue sections you added 
to the WG response slides) regarding the HPE physical layer draft Red Book.

The Working Group has reached consensus on how to respond to the three 
conditions.

The condition to add a definitions section and refer to seminal papers 
or other documents is accepted.

The condition to provide more detail in the rationale is accepted.

The condition to "add space-to-space" is rejected, for a fundamental 
technical reason.  The reason is that the modulation in the 
specification is suitable only for links which go through the 
atmosphere; other, coherent methods would be more suitable for 
space-to-space links.  Wording relating to this reason will be inserted 
into the document.

If this satisfies your concerns regarding approval of the document, let 
me know.

If it does not, please let me know also.  In that case, the Working 
Group accepts your suggestion for you to approve the document now under 
the contingencies you outlined in your Oct. 11 email (below), and to 
escrow these conditions to make sure they are captured and properly 
dispositioned as RIDs without further CESG input.

In either case, my understanding is that you are comfortable with 
allowing the document to proceed.  I will draft updated language to 
supply Tom Gannet for him to update the working copy in preparation for 
his release of the Red Book.

     ----Jon

On 10/11/2017 12:57 PM, Shames, Peter M (312B) wrote:
> Dear Gippo,
> 
> I have reviewed the feedback from the SLS-OPT WG on the SEA PIDs, as 
> documented in the marked up version of CCSDS 141x0r0_CESG_Approval 
> provided as part of the CESG review.  I have indicated three important, 
> specific, dispositions of CCSDS / CESG concerns that I think are 
> non-responsive to the conditions placed on the document.
> 
> I believe that these conditions must be properly addressed by the WG.
> 
> That said, if the working group is willing to accept these CESG 
> conditions, and develop acceptable dispositions, based on these inputs, 
> I am willing to approve the document now for release.   This approval is 
> contingent on the following:
> 
>  1. That the WG accepts these CESG identified conditions, for the stated
>     reasons, and agrees to develop acceptable dispositions.
>  2. That these CESG conditions are "escrowed" during agency review and
>     then addressed during the dispositioning of any RIDs that are
>     submitted during agency review.
>  3. That no further CESG input shall be required in order to ensure that
>     these are included in the WG dispositioning activities.
> 
> I know that this sort of "escrow" of CESG conditions is not a normal 
> practice, but I am willing to agree to it so that the WG may send the 
> document out in a more timely way than if we waited until they were 
> resolved properly.
> 
> Regards, Peter
> 
> *From: *Gian Paolo Calzolari < <mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int> Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>
> *Date: *Tuesday, September 19, 2017 at 9:12 AM
> *To: *Peter Shames < <mailto:peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov> peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>, Erik Barkley 
> < <mailto:erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov> erik.j.barkley at jpl.nasa.gov>, Tomaso de Cola < <mailto:Tomaso.deCola at dlr.de> Tomaso.deCola at dlr.de>
> *Cc: *Lena Braatz < <mailto:braatz_lena at bah.com> braatz_lena at bah.com>, Gilles Moury 
> < <mailto:Gilles.Moury at cnes.fr> Gilles.Moury at cnes.fr>, Klaus-Juergen Schulz 
> < <mailto:Klaus-Juergen.Schulz at esa.int> Klaus-Juergen.Schulz at esa.int>, Jon Hamkins < <mailto:jon.hamkins at jpl.nasa.gov> jon.hamkins at jpl.nasa.gov>, 
> Bernie Edwards < <mailto:bernard.l.edwards at nasa.gov> bernard.l.edwards at nasa.gov>, Tom Gannett 
> < <mailto:thomas.gannett at tgannett.net> thomas.gannett at tgannett.net>
> *Subject: *SLS-OPT WG: responses to CESG poll conditions on Optical 
> Physical Layer draft red book
> 
> Dear All,
>          please find here attached the SLS-OPT WG: responses to CESG 
> poll conditions on Optical Physical Layer draft red book
> 
> Thank you for your check and confirmation of the accomplishment of the 
> conditions at your earliest convenience.
> 
> 
> Gian Paolo
> 
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