[CESG] [CMC Alert] CCSDS Review of CCSDS 522.1-R-4, Mission Operations Monitor & Control Services
Thomas Gannett
thomas.gannett at tgannett.net
Mon Apr 24 19:23:44 UTC 2017
By the way, I wrote the text ". . . the length of the review period may be
adjusted according to the size and complexity of the review document . . ."
when we boldly decided to reduce the CCSDS review period from 90 days to 60
days. There was concern at the time that 60 days would not be adequate for
all reviews.
Thomas Gannett
thomas.gannett at tgannett.net
+1 443 472 0805
From: Thomas Gannett [mailto:thomas.gannett at tgannett.net]
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 3:00 PM
To: 'Mario.Merri at esa.int'
Cc: 'cesg at mailman.ccsds.org'; 'CMC-exec at mailman.ccsds.org';
'Nestor.Peccia at esa.int'; 'danford.s.smith at nasa.gov';
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Subject: RE: [CESG] [CMC Alert] CCSDS Review of CCSDS 522.1-R-4, Mission
Operations Monitor & Control Services
Hi, Mario:
The CESG poll that resulted in the decision to conduct another Agency review
ended on December 14, 2016; four months later, the Secretariat is being
asked to violate the rules in order to conduct a hurry-up, in-name-only
review. This is really not a Secretariat problem.
While text in the Org and Procs document implies flexibility in the review
schedule, that flexibility is there to allow longer review periods for
longer and more complex documents. It was never intended to imply the normal
review period could be significantly reduced, and certainly not cut in half.
The CCSDS has never conducted an international review anywhere near as short
as 30 days. If we did business like that we would have zero credibility as a
standards organization. ISO DIS review periods are 12 weeks.
The reason a 30-day review is unreasonable, by the way, is that a 30-day
review period, spanning semiannual technical meetings and associated travel,
taking into account that some agencies have to do local distribution and
convene local review boards, which activities can reduce the overall review
period by a week or more, ends up being a review period of less than two
weeks. We could be lucky and catch every technical expert who needs to
review the book at every agency, at work, free from other tasks, and able to
complete a review of a 180-page document during a week-to-ten-day period,
but it is simply not reasonable to expect that sort of on-demand
availability of reviewers.
In any case, I have to follow the rules. So do you. So does Peter. Only the
CMC has authority to suspend the rules.
Best regards,
Tom
Thomas Gannett
thomas.gannett at tgannett.net
+1 443 472 0805
From: Mario.Merri at esa.int [mailto:Mario.Merri at esa.int]
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 1:51 PM
To: Thomas Gannett
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Subject: Re: [CESG] [CMC Alert] CCSDS Review of CCSDS 522.1-R-4, Mission
Operations Monitor & Control Services
Tom,
as you pointed out the procedure states that "... the the review shall
normally allow 60 days ... " and that
"a) the length of the review period may be adjusted according to the size
and complexity of the review document;"
The above clearly implies that our procedures allow, in certain cases, to
shorten the review procedure.
You probably followed the exchange between Peter and me: after a long
discussion we finally agreed to go for the 4th expedite (i.e. 1 month)
review as the way to meet Peter's conditions. My request for shortening the
review was motivated by the fact that this is the 4th review. In addition,
the 1 month review was also clearly spelled out in my resolution to call for
the 4th review and I am not aware of anyone who opposed to that proposed
approach.
I would appreciate if you could reconsider your position and change the
review period to 1 month.
Regards,
__Mario
From: "Thomas Gannett" <thomas.gannett at tgannett.net>
To: <Nestor.Peccia at esa.int>
Cc: "'CMC-EXEC'" <cmc-exec-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org>,
CMC-exec at mailman.ccsds.org, cesg at mailman.ccsds.org
Date: 20/04/2017 16:02
Subject: Re: [CESG] [CMC Alert] CCSDS Review of CCSDS 522.1-R-4,
Mission Operations Monitor & Control Services
Sent by: "CESG" <cesg-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org>
_____
Dear Nestor:
There is no provision in our procedures for shortening review periods to one
month, as requested in the MOIMS resolution.
"6.2.5.1 The schedule for the review shall normally allow 60 days from the
time of the review commencement for Agencies to conduct review and return
comments to the review coordinator:
a) the length of the review period may be adjusted according to the size and
complexity of the review document;"
In this case the review document is not only large and complex, but also
differs substantially from the issue the preceded it.
"6.2.5.2 . . .
c) if substantive changes are made to a document that has
completed review without technical comment, the Secretariat shall conduct a
final review in which Agencies can approve or reject the document but may
not suggest additional changes;
d) the Secretariat shall follow the same procedures for
posting review materials and review announcement for each iteration of a
review."
Provision 6.2.5.2 c) above does not apply in this case, because the previous
review did not conclude without technical comment. Therefore this is a
normal review, and provision 6.2.5.2 d) applies.
You, as CESG Chair, should support following CCSDS procedures. In any case,
there is nothing in our procedures granting the CESG Chair authority to
dictate that the Secretariat violate CCSDS procedures.
It is, however, in the purview of the CMC to hold CCSDS procedures in
abeyance. I can set up a CMC poll requesting that review procedures for
review of issue 4 of the MOIMS Red Book be ignored.
Best regards,
Tom
Thomas Gannett
thomas.gannett at tgannett.net
+1 443 472 0805
From: Nestor.Peccia at esa.int [ <mailto:Nestor.Peccia at esa.int>
mailto:Nestor.Peccia at esa.int]
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 8:37 AM
To: CCSDS Rapporteur
Cc: CMC-exec at mailman.ccsds.org; CMC-EXEC; CESG -- CCSDS-Engineering Steering
Group(cesg at mailman.ccsds.org)(cesg at mailman.ccsds.org)
Subject: Re: [CMC Alert] CCSDS Review of CCSDS 522.1-R-4, Mission Operations
Monitor & Control Services
Tom,
The MOIMS AD has requested in his resolution (see below) a shorter review
period of 1 month for the 4th Agency Review of the book.
As CESG Chair I fully support this request and its justification, but you
have ignored it as CTE.
Please reduce the review period to 1 month as requested.
ciao
nestor
=============================
Resolution MOIMS-SM&C WG-R-2017-04-003: Approval to release CCSDS 522.0-R-4,
MO MONITOR & CONTROL SERVICES, for CCSDS Agency review
The MOIMS AD,
CONSIDERING that the MOIMS/SM&C Working Group has already performed 3 Agency
Reviews of the proposed draft Recommended Standard on "MISSION OPERATIONS -
MONITOR & CONTROL SERVICES",
CONSIDERING that the 3rd Agency Review has resulted in significant changes,
CONSIDERING that extensive additional comments have been received on the
updated draft document as result of the CESG poll for publication,
and RECOGNIZING that this version of the document has the approval of the
SM&C WG Chair and of the MOIMS AD,
RECOMMENDS that the CCSDS Engineering Steering Group, as previously agreed,
releases the document as a draft Recommended Standard for an expedite 4th
CCSDS Agency Review, which implies:
* No need for CESG/CMC poll for Agency Review (allowed by the YB)
* No/minimal re-checking of the draft document by the Chief Editor
before initiating the Agency Review (being the 4th review, the document is
already in the proper CCSDS format)
* The Chief Editor puts this document on top his waiting list queue
* The Agency Review period is shortened to 1 month (allowed by the
YB).
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