[CESG] Fwd: [CMC] ISO Affiliation with CCSDS

Tue Dec 1 10:14:31 UTC 2015

And, if CCSDS drops ISO affiliation, is it affecting also ECSS? If not, we'd have CCSDS making non-ISO standards, whereas ECSS would do it, which sounds a bit weird.

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We also need to keep in mind that we use the ISO patent declaration form for CCSDS documents.
What is the impact on this if CCSDS does not renew the affiliation to ISO?

Apparently SLS has no more  ISO Equivalent documents among their Blue Books (see http://public.ccsds.org/publications/BlueBooks.aspx )

Ciao

Gian Paolo

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I personally think that the association with ISO is a plus for CCSDS as ISO is certainly more internationally recognised and visible than CCSDS. This association has also avoided that ISO developed independently standards that might overlap with the CCSDS ones (see for instance the complexity of the relationships between CCSDS and OMG on XTCE).

Having said that I am not aware of the costs of this association. Maybe, a way forward could be to try to re-negotiate with ISO these costs, if at all possible.

Regards,

__Mario

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Dear all
I would appreciate your prompt reaction
Without copying the CMC, such that the CESG can provide a consensed response
Ciao
Nestor

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On 30 Nov 2015, 17:17:19, "James Afarin" <james.afarin at nasa.gov<mailto:james.afarin at nasa.gov>> wrote:
Hi All,

CCSDS secretariat is considering to sever the CCSDS affiliation with ISO due to cost of implementation of ISO requirements and associated fees.  The consequence are the CCSDS standards will not be ISO standards and there will be no ISO TC20/SC13 and ISO TC20/SC14 affiliation with CCSDS.  I need to make an urgent decision in this matter so please provide your input by COB Thursday December 3.  Also a formal CMC poll will be provided for your official vote very soon.

Thank you,

James

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