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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">And, if CCSDS drops ISO affiliation, is it affecting also ECSS? If not, we’d have CCSDS making non-ISO standards, whereas ECSS would do it, which sounds a bit
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org [mailto:cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Gian.Paolo.Calzolari@esa.int<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 01, 2015 11:03<br>
<b>To:</b> CCSDS CESG --<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CESG] Fwd: [CMC] ISO Affiliation with CCSDS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">We also need to keep in mind that we use the ISO patent declaration form for CCSDS documents.</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">What is the impact on this if CCSDS does not renew the affiliation to ISO?</span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Apparently SLS has no more ISO Equivalent documents among their Blue Books (see
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Ciao</span> <br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Gian Paolo</span>
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">From: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:Mario.Merri@esa.int">Mario.Merri@esa.int</a></span>
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">To: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:Nestor.Peccia@esa.int">Nestor.Peccia@esa.int</a></span>
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">Cc: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">"<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>></span>
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">Date: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">01/12/2015 08:53</span>
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">Subject: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Re: [CESG] Fwd: [CMC] ISO Affiliation with CCSDS</span>
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#5F5F5F">Sent by: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg-bounces@mailman.ccsds.org</a></span>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I personally think that the association with ISO is a plus for CCSDS as ISO is certainly more internationally recognised and visible than CCSDS. This association has also avoided that ISO developed
independently standards that might overlap with the CCSDS ones (see for instance the complexity of the relationships between CCSDS and OMG on XTCE).</span>
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Having said that I am not aware of the costs of this association. Maybe, a way forward could be to try to re-negotiate with ISO these costs, if at all possible.</span>
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Regards,</span> <br>
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__Mario</span> <br>
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From: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:Nestor.Peccia@esa.int">Nestor.Peccia@esa.int</a></span>
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To: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">"<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:cesg@mailman.ccsds.org">cesg@mailman.ccsds.org</a>></span>
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Date: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">30/11/2015 18:30</span>
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Subject: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">[CESG] Fwd: [CMC] ISO Affiliation with CCSDS</span>
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Dear all <br>
I would appreciate your prompt reaction <br>
Without copying the CMC, such that the CESG can provide a consensed response <br>
Ciao <br>
Nestor <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On 30 Nov 2015, 17:17:19, "James Afarin" <<a href="mailto:james.afarin@nasa.gov">james.afarin@nasa.gov</a>> wrote:
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Hi All,</span> <br>
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CCSDS secretariat is considering to sever the CCSDS affiliation with ISO due to cost of implementation of ISO requirements and associated fees. The consequence are the CCSDS standards will not be ISO standards and there will be no ISO TC20/SC13 and ISO TC20/SC14
affiliation with CCSDS. I need to make an urgent decision in this matter so please provide your input by COB Thursday December 3. Also a formal CMC poll will be provided for your official vote very soon.</span>
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Thank you,</span> <br>
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James</span> <br>
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