[CESG] Re: SLS reply to SEA AD conditions for CESG review of CCSDS 131.5-O-1, Erasure Correcting Codes for Use in Near-Earth and Deep-Space Communications

[Shames, Peter M (312B)]

Dear Gippo, et al,

As promised I am providing my reply to your rejection of this SEA RID.  I am willing to withdraw this condition to publishing this Orange Book now, but must insist that a different, but related, condition be agreed to by the C&S WG and the SLS Area.

My alternative condition is this:  That the SLS Area and C&S WG agree that this Orange Book shall not be proposed for promotion to Blue Book status unless and until the normal evaluation, comparison, study, analysis, and multi-agency prototyping be performed and concurred by the whole working group.

I expressly wish to avoid a situation where this document sits around and, like a nice Bleu chesse, ages until it magically turns Blue.   As long as I am assured that shall not happen, and that normal CCSDS processes will be followed in producing a consensus standard that fits with the rest of our normal standards, I will remove this condition.

Do I have that agreement?

Best regards, Peter



From: Gian Paolo Calzolari <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int<mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>>
Date: Thursday, October 16, 2014 3:10 AM
To: Peter Shames <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>>, Nestor Peccia <Nestor.Peccia at esa.int<mailto:Nestor.Peccia at esa.int>>
Cc: Gilles Moury <Gilles.Moury at cnes.fr<mailto:Gilles.Moury at cnes.fr>>, "Massimo.Bertinelli at esa.int<mailto:Massimo.Bertinelli at esa.int>" <Massimo.Bertinelli at esa.int<mailto:Massimo.Bertinelli at esa.int>>, "Tomaso.deCola at dlr.de<mailto:Tomaso.deCola at dlr.de>" <Tomaso.deCola at dlr.de<mailto:Tomaso.deCola at dlr.de>>, Tomaso de Cola <Tomaso.deCola at dlr.de<mailto:Tomaso.deCola at dlr.de>>, CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG Exec <cesg at mailman.ccsds.org<mailto:cesg at mailman.ccsds.org>>, Tom Gannett <tomg at aiaa.org<mailto:tomg at aiaa.org>>
Subject: SLS reply to SEA AD conditions for CESG review of CCSDS 131.5-O-1, Erasure Correcting Codes for Use in Near-Earth and Deep-Space Communications

Dear Peter,
        in the above mentioned CESG Poll you have voted APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS.
Following such a vote, you find here attached the replies from Tomaso de Cola (book Editor and DLR representative in SLS-C&S) including some detailed technical discussion over your remarks..
Note that C&S WG Chair Massimo Bertinelli shares completely what Tomaso wrote as this is perfectly in line, in his opinion, with the decisions taken at WG level over the years.
Moreover, Gilles and I fully support DLR position as Experimental Specifications (Orange Books) are meant to document experimental solution  developed unilaterally by an agency with no obligation to provide trade-off with justification and this was never requested to other precursor orange books.

It is SLS Area opinion that your SEA AD conditions are therefore invalid and we all invite you to withdraw them.

Dear Nestor,
        as CESG Chair can you please advice on the way to follow?

Thank you all and best regards

Gian Paolo



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