[Secretariat] Re: [Cesg-all] Review of DRAFT CCSDS Glossary / some initial emotional comments

[Thomas Gannett]

Historical note:  The Glossary was originally compiled by the 
Secretariat (i.e., by me) and was updated on a low-priority basis by 
the Secretariat prior to the great CCSDS reorganization/ Secretariat 
annihilation of 2003-2004.  Since then SEA has indeed become its 
owner, but the responsibility for validating/updating the individual 
entries obviously belongs to the WG experts.

If the original source citations had been preserved, it would be a 
simple matter the assign each WG the task of updating the entries 
relating to documents for which they are responsible.  That would not 
be a resource-intensive activity.

Even without the source citations, the time required for a WG chair 
to scan the entries and identify those for which his/her WG should 
take responsibility is insignificant.  There is a danger of spending 
more time on discussions about who should be responsible for it and 
who has resources to do it than would be required simply to do what is needed.


At 11:23 AM 11/9/2011, John Garrett wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I don't believe that this was originally a Panel 2 project.  It did 
>involve glossary entries from Panel 1 and Panel 3 books.
>I believe it was originally a CCSDS Secretariat/CCSDS Editor function.
>My recollection is that definitions from new standards would 
>automatically be added to the CCSDS Glossary and it would 
>periodically be published.
>
>Actually what you might be thinking of is that when I was CCSDS web 
>master, we had a P2 area and there was a P2 glossary page on it.  I 
>maintained it the same way as the CCSDS glossary was maintained back 
>then and how I would propose that the CCSDS registry should be 
>maintained now.  Whenever a new standard is published, the 
>definitions (and acronyms) that are included in the glossary of the 
>standard should automatically be included in the CCSDS glossary.
>
>Cheers,
>-JOhn
>
>
>On 11/8/2011 7:19 PM, Shames, Peter M (313B) wrote:
>>Nestor,
>>
>>The glossary is not an SEA task, it is a CCSDS wide one.  And, I 
>>should point out, the origins of this Glossary were probably Panel 
>>2.   The source of the problem now is that WGs do not look to see 
>>what is defined prior to defining new terms and we have no process 
>>for managing the Glossary either.
>>
>>We need to discuss how best to do this for CCSDS, using CCSDS 
>>resources.   SEA can no more take on this job with no resources 
>>provided by the agencies than any other Area or WG can.   The SSG 
>>believes that this is a job that should be done by the Areas and 
>>WGs, with help from the SANA operator and SEA.  We are certainly 
>>prepared to assist, but cannot do the job by ourselves.
>>
>>Ciao, Peter
>>
>>
>>
>>From: Nestor Peccia <<mailto:Nestor.Peccia at esa.int>Nestor.Peccia at esa.int>
>>Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:22:59 -0800
>>To: Peter Shames 
>><<mailto:peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>
>>Cc: CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG All 
>><<mailto:cesg-all at mailman.ccsds.org>cesg-all at mailman.ccsds.org>, 
>>"<mailto:cesg-all-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org>cesg-all-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org" 
>><<mailto:cesg-all-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org>cesg-all-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org>, 
>>Gian Paolo Calzolari 
>><<mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>, 
>>  "SANA Steering Group (SSG)" 
>><<mailto:ssg at mailman.ccsds.org>ssg at mailman.ccsds.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Cesg-all] Review of DRAFT CCSDS Glossary / some 
>>initial emotional comments
>>
>>Peter
>>
>>If our ESA staff can do this in their spare time is OK.
>>
>>We will not ask to any ESA contractor (your SMEs I believe) because 
>>we need to pay their effort
>>
>>and ESA wants to spend the resources in higher priority tasks.
>>
>>At the end of the day, glossaries are typical tasks of System 
>>Engineering. Therefore is a primarily SEA task. We can help but the 
>>burden of the tasks shall be done by your Area,
>>
>>ciao
>>nestor

Thomas Gannett
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