[Cesg-all] Review of DRAFT CCSDS Glossary / some initial emotional comments

[John Garrett]

Hi,

Many of the references are to the CCSDS Glossary.
However, the CCSDS Glossary in the past was a compilation of the glossary 
references from other CCSDS Standards
with a reference back to the Standard where they originated.
We should probably change the reference to the CCSDS Glossary to a reference to 
the actual standard where it originated as given by the the reference in the 
CCSDS Glossary.

If there are different definitions given in different CCSDS Standards, all the 
definitions should be maintained in the CCSDS Glossary.  Any that have become 
inaccurate should be kept but marked as deprecated.

Cheers,
-JOhn

On 11/8/2011 12:59 PM, Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int wrote:
>
> Peter,
>         my first comment is about the printability of the web version.
> As you can see from the attached examples, there is no way (*) of getting all 
> columns printed and this is quite annoying.
> Even assuming that nobody wants to print all those pages, a pdf version can 
> always be useful.......
> Second comment is really about the number of pages (about 160 in portrait, more 
> than 200 in landscape) just to do the second question: what king of review can 
> you expect on this glossary? Should everybody read it line by line or what?  :o)
>
> OK, jokes apart, would it be better that SANA tries to point out issues as e.g. 
> duplications?
> I could capture AOS, UM, asynchronous  and UTC, but just by chance.
>
> Could you please advice on which kind of "initial review of the current 
> Glossary no later than mid January 2012" you expect?
> About duplications (and false duplications) what actions are you expecting?
>
>
> BTW, the best duplication is of course CCSDS with 4 variants!     :o)
>
> Regards
>
> Gian Paolo
>
>
> (*) Unless using tricks......
>
> PS Is there a count of the terms?
>
> PS Bis - More Comments
> AOS duplication.
> Nice to have 4 definitions for AOS. The winning one should in principle be that 
> one coming from http://public.ccsds.org/publications/archive/732x0b2.pdfbut 
> this is inconsistent with its own FOREWORD but consistent with the acronym on 
> Annex A    :o)
> The duplication I like best is the one from 
> http://public.ccsds.org/publications/archive/a30x0g3.pdfwhere the distinction 
> is made by the full stop.
>
> asynchronous: nice to see that one varuiant is "not synchronous (see below)."
>
> asymmetrical service: is present twice but one has no rerence? Why sometimes 
> the reference is empty?
> ----
> It looks as the CCSDS Editor should save some reminders for the future updates 
> to those books. (Sorry, Tom)
>
>
>
>
> From: 	"Shames, Peter M (313B)" <peter.m.shames at jpl.nasa.gov>
> To: 	CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - CESG All <cesg-all at mailman.ccsds.org>
> Cc: 	"SANA Steering Group \(SSG\)" <ssg at mailman.ccsds.org>
> Date: 	04-11-11 18:45
> Subject: 	[Cesg-all] Review of DRAFT CCSDS Glossary
> Sent by: 	cesg-all-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Dear CCSDS Area and WG colleagues,
>
> During this week's SANA Steering Group it was agreed that a priority item is to 
> get the candidate CCSDS Glossary that is out on the SANA website updated, 
> approved, and released.
>
> The old, published, CCSDS Glossary was woefully out of date (1997).  I did get 
> a JPL staffer to scrape thru all the CCSDS docs circa 2007 and produce an 
> update.  This identified a lot of new terms and a lot of redundant terms.  More 
> recently the SANA operator, Marc Blanchet, has scraped thru the newer CCSDS 
> docs looking for yet newer terms.  This is what is now in the candidate Glossary.
>
> The SANA Steering Group (SSG) is requesting that each of the WGs take a look at 
> this draft Glossary, which can be found in the SANA website at 
> http://sanaregistry.org/r/glossary/glossary.html, and identify any terms that 
> are already defined and provide any terms that need re-definition.  If there 
> are definition collisions we will work with the WGs to sort them out.
>
> Please do this initial review of the current Glossary no later than mid January 
> 2010.
>
> Thanks, Peter
>
> ________________________________________________________
>
> Peter Shames
> CCSDS System Engineering Area Director
>
> Jet Propulsion Laboratory, MS 301-490
> California Institute of Technology
> Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>
> Telephone: +1 818 354-5740,  Fax: +1 818 393-6871
>
> Internet: _Peter.M.Shames at jpl.nasa.gov_
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>
> We must recognize the strong and undeniable influence that our language exerts 
> on our ways of thinking and, in fact, delimits the abstract space in which we 
> can formulate - give form to - our thoughts.
>
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