[Cesg-all] Results of CMC Polls Closing 11 July 2011
CCSDS Secretariat
tomg at aiaa.org
Tue Jul 12 17:04:53 EDT 2011
CMC E-Poll Identifier: CMC-P-2011-06-002
Authorization to Publish CCSDS A02.1-3,
Organization and Processes for the Consultative
Committee for Space Data Systems (Yellow Book, Issue 3)
Results of CMC poll beginning 10 June 2011 and ending 11 July 2011:
ADOPT: 4 (50%) (ASI, INPE, JAXA, UKSA)
ADOPT PROVISIONALLY: 4 (50%) (CNES, DLR, ESA, NASA)
REJECT: 0 (0%)
REJECT WITH COMMENTS: 0 (0%)
CNES: * CNES agrees with ESA provisions concerning the PICS.
* An editorial comment is that the titles in the
table of contents do not match the titles in the text (at least section 1).
* Finally, as a number of the CNES comments made
during the last review of the document were not
taken into account, CNES will soon produce RFC's
to the same document but at this stage CNES will
not delay the edition of the proposed version
with CCSDS has been missing for too long.
DLR: DLR proposes to change recommended
standards into standards, because DLR cannot see
any additional value from the word recommended
and in the end on the ISO level we will have a standard.
NASA comments can be accepted by DLR
DLR can follow the ESA argumentation on PICS
Other comments:
1.3.1.3: Add recommended practices beside recommended standards in a)
1.3.1.4.6: Reformulate the secretarys duties to a more stringent wording.
1.3.2.2: Delete Expert from the definition in a).
There are area directors, which are experts for
their domain in CCSDS but not expert area directors.
1.3.2.3: Delete and protocols from a).
Standards may be protocols and they are therefore
already included in this term.
Add deputies in n). But according 1.3.3.4 both WG
chairs and their deputies are only approved by
CESG. They are appointed by the AD.
1.3.2.4.3: Add a bullet like:
ADs are responsible for the work done in their WGs, BOFs and SIGs.
1.3.4: Limit the lifetime of a BOF to one year.
ESA: (see the same text with colours in the attached file)
ESA Conditions for poll CMC-P-2011-06-002
All references to PICS have to be performed
according to the decisions made at CESG level.
Section 5.1.2
Definition of protocol was not accepted by CESG.
Please insert tbd in definition or delete it
Section 5.2.6 b) 1, 4th sub-bullet. Please add text in red
each Recommended Standard defining a protocol
shall contain, as a normative annex, either a
Protocol Implementation Conformance Statement
(PICS) proforma that provides a statement of what
conformance to the specification means or a
statement explaining why one is not included.
Fifth sub-bullet needs also to be updated
Annex B.2.1, a, last paragraph. Please add text in red
Blue Books defining protocols must include
either a Protocol Implementation Conformance
Statement (PICS) proforma as a normative annex
(See annex F for details about the structure,
content, and an example of the PICS proforma.) or
a statement explaining why one is not included.
Annex F, A.1 Overview. Please remove PICS
reference and explanations for all cases except
protocols. Rationale is shown below.
Decision of PICS definition for Information
object standards (i.e., data exchange specs like
TDM or XFDU), service specifications, coding
specifications, modulation specifications, and
compression specifications were deferred until
the next CESG physical meeting at Boulder
Colorado (Nov 2011). An ICS (Information
Compliance Statement) will be presented and
discussed at that venue. Once agreed the document
CCSDS A02.1-Y-2.1d shall be updated.
Annex F, A.1, 1st Paragraph. Please add text in red
This annex provides the rationale, content
guidelines and nominal structure for a CCSDS
Protocol Implementation Conformance Statement
(PICS) proforma. The PICS proforma is a required
normative annex in all CCSDS Blue Books. There
might be cases where the PICS annex contains a
statement why one is not included.
Annex F, A.1 2nd paragraph
A reference to the CCSDS Nomenclature has to be added
Annex F, A.1 last paragraph
The PICS in 714.0-B-2 are very different from
the draft PICS Annex provided on pages F-3, etc.
NASA: My provisions are 3 minor
corrections identified during this final review of the document:
(1) 5.1.3.2, 5th line Standards may be defined
should be Recommended Standards may be defined
(2) 5.1.3.4, last sentence should be preceded
with However, unlike Recommended Standards,
Recommended Practices do not include the level of
(3) Additionally, 5.1.3.4 seems to be a
continuation of 5.1.3.3, and perhaps should not
be cited as a new paragraph number.
Results are based on responses from 8 out of 11 members (72.73%).
No response was received from the following Agencies:
CNSA
CSA
FSA
Secretariat Interpretation of Results: Adopted Provisionally
Resulting CMC Resolution: CMC-R-2011-07-002
Inferred Secretariat Action: Address Provisions; Publish Document
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CMC E-Poll Identifier: CMC-P-2011-06-003
Authorization to publish CCSDS 313.0-Y-1, Space
Assigned Numbers Authority (SANA)--Role,
Responsibilities, Policies, and Procedures (Yellow Book, Issue 1)
Results of CMC poll beginning 22 June 2011 and ending 11 July 2011:
ADOPT: 4 (57.14%) (ASI, INPE, JAXA, UKSA)
ADOPT PROVISIONALLY: 3 (42.86%) (CNES, DLR, NASA)
REJECT: 0 (0%)
REJECT WITH COMMENTS: 0 (0%)
CNES: 1) Agree that SANA SG membership
should be removed from section 3.7.
2) SANA being a registry operated by the SANA
Operator and, SANA SG being another player in the
game, the complete document should be checked to
clearly refer to SANA Operator or to SANA SG as
subject of sentences like "SANA shall work",
"SANA shall notify", etc... A registry cannot do such things.
DLR: DLR agrees with the comments of CNES and NASA
NASA: Section 3.7 spells out that the
membership of the SANA Steering Group should be
exactly (a) Secretariat representative, (b) SEA
representative, (c) SANA WG representative, and
(d) member of another agency. I think that the
CMC may want to adjust the membership as time
goes by, and it would be better to be not so
specific in this document. I recommend section
3.7 be changed to simply say "The Membership of
the SANA Steering Group is determined and approved by the CMC".
Also, NASA agrees with the CNES comments.
Results are based on responses from 7 out of 11 members (63.64%).
No response was received from the following Agencies:
CNSA
CSA
ESA
FSA
Secretariat Interpretation of Results: Adopted Provisionally
Resulting CMC Resolution: CMC-R-2011-07-003
Inferred Secretariat Action: Address Provisions; Publish Document
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