[Cesg-all] AOS PINK SHEETS (was RE: [CMC] RP A3-07
Announcement of.,.)
Adrian J. Hooke
adrian.j.hooke@jpl.nasa.gov
Thu, 21 Aug 2003 09:16:14 -0700
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>At 11:38 AM 7/10/2003, ccsds_rapporteur wrote:
>>The following draft CCSDS Recommendation has been placed on line for
>>CCSDS Agency review:
>> CCSDS 701.0-P-3.1. Advanced Orbiting Systems, Networks and Data
>> Links: Architectural Specification.
>> Pink Sheets. April 2003.
>>DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION: This draft update to the Advanced Orbiting
>>Systems, Networks and Data Links: Architectural Specification
>>Recommendation modifies the VCDU Header by converting three of seven
>>spare bits into a new VCDU Counter Extension field.
At 07:57 AM 8/21/2003, Fred Brosi wrote:
>Did we ever reach a resolution on this? My current feeling is that we are
>a long way from a "Pink" proposal.
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Fred: if you go to http://www.ccsds.org/review/rpa307/rpa307.html you will
see that the deadline for Agency review comments is 10 September.
However, several things are NOT stated in that "REQUEST FOR REVIEW OF CCSDS
DOCUMENT":
a. What's the context and history of this document?
b. What's its prior review history and where is its supporting data base of
dispositioned RIDs?
c. Did the CESG approve it prior to its being approved for review by the CMC?
I suspect that this document is one of those that is caught in the
transition between the "old" and the "new" ways of doing business. Tom and
Bob: can you comment?
If you have been paying attention in the last week, you will notice that I
have been working with the Secretariat to make sure that all future
documents that are destined to be reviewed by the CMC are *first* reviewed
by the CESG Area Directors. This quality-control review is a *fundamental*
precept of the new organization, and it means that you Area Directors must
review each proposal and reach consensus *before* it goes to the CMC. To
make this process simpler for the Area Directors, I have asked the
Secretariat to:
a) Provide a short contextual and history summary with each submission to
the CESG, so that you know what's expected of you;
b) Set up an archived electronic balloting system for each of you to state
your approval or disapproval.
c) Track the due dates for CESG review (and issue "auto-nags" as
appropriate) to make sure that the CESG does its job in a timely fashion
As far as this particular document is concerned, as you know I personally
share your view that "we are a long way from a 'Pink' proposal". Since you
and I represent 2/7 of the CESG, we clearly do not have CESG consensus to
approve this document at this time. Perhaps Jean-Luc can comment about how
he intends to proceed?
With respect to -
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>I would like to request that the CMC should rapidly act upon this part of
>the plan by setting up a web-based mechanism whereby the industrial base
>of all Agencies is alerted to such proposed changes, and is given an
>opportunity to comment and interact before any final decisions are made.
>And, in particular, that this proposed set of AOS Pink Sheets should be
>exposed this community.
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- I have no information as to whether the CMC acted upon this request. As
you know, once a document is technically approved by the CESG it is out of
our hands, and obtaining widespread external review is still the job of the
CMC and the Secretariat. Perhaps Tom or Bob can comment?
Best regards
Adrian
Adrian J. Hooke
Chairman, CCSDS Engineering Steering Group (CESG)
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory,
Interplanetary Network Directorate
M/S 303-400, 4800 Oak Grove Drive
Pasadena, California 91109-8099, USA
+1.818.354.3063 OFFICE
+1.818.653.9553 MOBILE
+1 818.393.6228 FAX
http://www.ccsds.org
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<dd>At 11:38 AM 7/10/2003, ccsds_rapporteur
wrote:<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>
<dd>The following draft CCSDS Recommendation has been placed on line for
CCSDS Agency review:
<dd> CCSDS 701.0-P-3.1. Advanced Orbiting
Systems, Networks and Data Links: Architectural Specification.
<dd>
Pink Sheets. April 2003.
<dd>DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION: This draft update to the Advanced
Orbiting Systems, Networks and Data Links: Architectural Specification
Recommendation modifies the VCDU Header by converting three of seven
spare bits into a new VCDU Counter Extension
field.</font></blockquote></blockquote>
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</font><font color="#800080">At 07:57 AM 8/21/2003, Fred Brosi
wrote:<br>
</font><blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="arial" size=2 color="#800080">Did
we ever reach a resolution on this? My current feeling is that we are a
long way from a "Pink"
proposal.</font></blockquote>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<br><br>
Fred: if you go to
<a href="http://www.ccsds.org/review/rpa307/rpa307.html" eudora="autourl">http://www.ccsds.org/review/rpa307/rpa307.html</a>
you will see that the deadline for Agency review comments is 10 September. <br><br>
However, several things are NOT stated in that "REQUEST FOR REVIEW OF CCSDS DOCUMENT":<br><br>
a. What's the context and history of this document?<br>
b. What's its prior review history and where is its supporting data base of dispositioned RIDs?<br>
c. Did the CESG approve it prior to its being approved for review by the CMC?<br><br>
I suspect that this document is one of those that is caught in the transition between the "old" and the "new" ways of doing business. Tom and Bob: can you comment? <br><br>
If you have been paying attention in the last week, you will notice that I have been working with the Secretariat to make sure that all future documents that are destined to be reviewed by the CMC are *first* reviewed by the CESG Area Directors. This quality-control review is a *fundamental* precept of the new organization, and it means that you Area Directors must review each proposal and reach consensus *before* it goes to the CMC. To make this process simpler for the Area Directors, I have asked the Secretariat to:<br><br>
a) Provide a short contextual and history summary with each submission to the CESG, so that you know what's expected of you;<br>
b) Set up an archived electronic balloting system for each of you to state your approval or disapproval.<br>
c) Track the due dates for CESG review (and issue "auto-nags" as appropriate) to make sure that the CESG does its job in a timely fashion<br><br>
As far as this particular document is concerned, as you know I personally share your view that "we are a long way from a 'Pink' proposal". Since you and I represent 2/7 of the CESG, we clearly do not have CESG consensus to approve this document at this time. Perhaps Jean-Luc can comment about how he intends to proceed?<br><br>
With respect to - <br><br>
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>
<dl>
<dd>I would like to request that the CMC should rapidly act upon this part of the plan by setting up a web-based mechanism whereby the industrial base of all Agencies is alerted to such proposed changes, and is given an opportunity to comment and interact before any final decisions are made. And, in particular, that this proposed set of AOS Pink Sheets should be exposed this community.</b></blockquote>
</dl>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<br><br>
- I have no information as to whether the CMC acted upon this request. As you know, once a document is technically approved by the CESG it is out of our hands, and obtaining widespread external review is still the job of the CMC and the Secretariat. Perhaps Tom or Bob can comment?<br><br>
Best regards<br>
Adrian<br>
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Adrian J. Hooke<br>
Chairman, CCSDS Engineering Steering Group (CESG)<br>
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory, <br>
Interplanetary Network Directorate<br>
M/S 303-400, 4800 Oak Grove Drive<br>
Pasadena, California 91109-8099, USA<br>
+1.818.354.3063 OFFICE<br>
+1.818.653.9553 MOBILE<br>
+1 818.393.6228 FAX<br>
<a href="http://www.ccsds.org/" eudora="autourl">http://</a>www.ccsds.<a href="http://www.ccsds.org/" eudora="autourl">org<br>
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