[Cesg-all] Re: [CMC] RP A3-07 Announcement of Review Opportunity
Fred Brosi
brosi@gst.com
Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:57:33 -0400
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Adrian,
Did we ever reach a resolution on this? My current feeling is that we are a
long way from a "Pink" proposal.
-Fred Brosi
-----Original Message-----
From: cesg-all-admin@mailman.ccsds.org
[mailto:cesg-all-admin@mailman.ccsds.org]On Behalf Of Adrian J. Hooke
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 3:40 PM
To: CCSDS Management Council
Cc: ccsds_rapporteur; CCSDS Engineering Steering Group - All
Subject: [Cesg-all] Re: [CMC] RP A3-07 Announcement of Review Opportunity
Importance: High
At 11:38 AM 7/10/2003, ccsds_rapporteur wrote:
The following draft CCSDS Recommendation has been placed on line for
CCSDS Agency review:
CCSDS 701.0-P-3.1. Advanced Orbiting Systems, Networks and Data
Links: Architectural Specification.
Pink Sheets. April 2003.
DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION: This draft update to the Advanced Orbiting
Systems, Networks and Data Links: Architectural Specification Recommendation
modifies the VCDU Header by converting three of seven spare bits into a new
VCDU Counter Extension field.
+++++++++++++++++++++
It is critical that this document should get a very wide review,
particularly from industry. This is one of the "key" controlling
specifications of the space/ground interface, and we know that there are
many commercial implementations of the protocol deployed around the world.
It is thus essential that the industrial suppliers from all countries should
thoroughly review this (and any other such changes to the core CCSDS
protocol suite), so that our "installed base" is not de-stabilized.
Section 2.2.3 (Volume 2) of the Restructuring Plan addressed this issue:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
C Industrial Relations
Achieving space mission cost reductions via standardization significantly
relies on the willingness and ability of the commercial supplier base to
invest in providing standards-compatible systems and equipment. Although
CCSDS has historically (and of economic necessity) been Agency-centric, a
new and formal mechanism is needed whereby the industrial support base of
all CCSDS Agencies can become more proactively involved with standardization
activities.
At present, industrial relationships are primarily administered on a local
basis, with each Agency supporting its own interfaces with its national
industry. However, this arrangement does not properly cater to the emerging
trans-national nature of space commerce and lacks a strong central focus
within the CCSDS organization. It is strongly recommended that the CMC
should formalize the "International Associates" program, using web-based
information interchange services provided by the Secretariat as a day-to-day
focal point for two-way information exchange. A prominent and dedicated area
of the CCSDS web site should be provided to handle this dialog. Industrial
user groups and interest groups be encouraged and newsletters, workshops,
etc. should be regularly scheduled to ensure that their needs and inputs are
heard.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I would like to request that the CMC should rapidly act upon this part of
the plan by setting up a web-based mechanism whereby the industrial base of
all Agencies is alerted to such proposed changes, and is given an
opportunity to comment and interact before any final decisions are made.
And, in particular, that this proposed set of AOS Pink Sheets should be
exposed this community.
Best regards
Adrian
Adrian J. Hooke
Chairman, CCSDS Engineering Steering Group (CESG)
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory,
Interplanetary Network Directorate
M/S 303-400, 4800 Oak Grove Drive
Pasadena, California 91109-8099, USA
+1.818.354.3063 OFFICE
+1.818.653.9553 MOBILE
+1 818.393.6228 FAX
http://www.ccsds.org
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[mailto:cesg-all-admin@mailman.ccsds.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Adrian J. =
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Steering=20
Group - All<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Cesg-all] Re: [CMC] RP A3-07 =
Announcement of=20
Review Opportunity<BR><B>Importance:</B> =
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color=3D#0000ff>At 11:38 AM 7/10/2003, ccsds_rapporteur wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite">The following draft =
CCSDS=20
Recommendation has been placed on line for CCSDS Agency=20
review:<BR> CCSDS 701.0-P-3.1. =
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Orbiting Systems, Networks and Data Links: Architectural=20
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Pink Sheets. April 2003.<BR>DOCUMENT DESCRIPTION: This =
draft=20
update to the Advanced Orbiting Systems, Networks and Data Links:=20
Architectural Specification Recommendation modifies the VCDU Header =
by=20
converting three of seven spare bits into a new VCDU Counter =
Extension=20
field.</BLOCKQUOTE>+++++++++++++++++++++<BR><BR></FONT>It is critical =
that=20
this document should get a very wide review, particularly from =
industry. This=20
is one of the "key" controlling specifications of the space/ground =
interface,=20
and we know that there are many commercial implementations of the =
protocol=20
deployed around the world. It is thus essential that the industrial =
suppliers=20
from all countries should thoroughly review this (and any other such =
changes=20
to the core CCSDS protocol suite), so that our "installed base" is not =
de-stabilized.<BR><BR>Section 2.2.3 (Volume 2) of the Restructuring =
Plan=20
addressed this=20
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issue:<BR><BR>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<BR>C<X-TAB> &nbs=
p; </X-TAB>Industrial=20
Relations<BR><BR>Achieving space mission cost reductions via =
standardization=20
significantly relies on the willingness and ability of the commercial =
supplier=20
base to invest in providing standards-compatible systems and =
equipment.=20
Although CCSDS has historically (and of economic necessity) been =
Agency-centric, a new and formal mechanism is needed whereby the =
industrial=20
support base of all CCSDS Agencies can become more proactively =
involved with=20
standardization activities. <BR><BR>At present, industrial =
relationships are=20
primarily administered on a local basis, with each Agency supporting =
its own=20
interfaces with its national industry. However, this arrangement does =
not=20
properly cater to the emerging trans-national nature of space commerce =
and=20
lacks a strong central focus within the CCSDS organization. It is =
strongly=20
recommended that the CMC should formalize the "International =
Associates"=20
program, using web-based information interchange services provided by =
the=20
Secretariat as a day-to-day focal point for two-way information =
exchange. A=20
prominent and dedicated area of the CCSDS web site should be provided =
to=20
handle this dialog. Industrial user groups and interest groups be =
encouraged=20
and newsletters, workshops, etc. should be regularly scheduled to =
ensure that=20
their needs and inputs are heard.=20
<BR>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<BR><BR><B>I would like to =
request=20
that the CMC should rapidly act upon this part of the plan by setting =
up a=20
web-based mechanism whereby the industrial base of all Agencies is =
alerted to=20
such proposed changes, and is given an opportunity to comment and =
interact=20
before any final decisions are made. And, in particular, that this =
proposed=20
set of AOS Pink Sheets should be exposed this =
community.<BR><BR></B>Best=20
regards<BR>Adrian<BR><X-SIGSEP>
<P></X-SIGSEP>Adrian J. Hooke<BR>Chairman, CCSDS Engineering Steering =
Group=20
(CESG)<BR>NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory, <BR>Interplanetary Network=20
Directorate<BR>M/S 303-400, 4800 Oak Grove Drive<BR>Pasadena, =
California=20
91109-8099, USA<BR>+1.818.354.3063 OFFICE<BR>+1.818.653.9553 =
MOBILE<BR>+1=20
818.393.6228 FAX<BR><A href=3D"http://www.ccsds.org/"=20
eudora=3D"autourl">http://</A>www.ccsds.<A =
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