[Sis-dtn] Notes from the NASA DTN F2F Meeting

Sanchez Net, Marc (US 332H) marc.sanchez.net at jpl.nasa.gov
Mon Feb 13 17:09:31 UTC 2023


Hi All,

Here are the notes/questions for the SIS-DTN WG that I recorded at the NASA DTN face-to-face meeting.


  *   BPv7
     *   Leigh Torgerson pointed out that in the assumptions of the proposed RTP book there is the following statement: "arbitrary bundle sizes-the multicast mechanism must not impose arbitrary limits that are less than the maximum bundle size on the size of bundles.". The question then becomes whether having a bundle size (10 MB) in the spec restricts other specifications in any way.
     *   Should we add a requirement (maybe a "should" rather than a "shall") for CLAs to notify BP when transmission with that CLA is possible? This would provide minimal indication of whether transmission via a CLA is possible.
     *   Compressed Bundle Reporting:
        *   How that CBR handle bundle fragmentation?
        *   Why do we need CBR to define a new extension block with the FSN and flow sequence? PACE is using the service numbers in the transmit EID as the FSN, so they are able to uniquely identify flows and bundles within the flow without having an extension block.
        *   Should we have a dedicated reporting mechanism for bundle expiration?
        *   Can we make bundle reporting extensible so that missions have the ability to have their reporting reasons?
  *   LTPv2
     *   Will LTPv2 have a way to signal to the receiver the size of the LTP block? This would facilitate memory allocation at the receiver.
     *   Will LTPv2 have a "hook" to get notified when the underlying link is down. This can be used to pause timers, etc.
     *   Will LTPv2 have a way to aggregate report segments and report segment acknowledgements to reduce overhead?
     *   Will LTPv2 have a ping mechanism for the tx/rx engines to assess whether the link is running?
     *   Will LTPv2 have a concept of transmission deadline, which causes the tx to stop sending a block if it is not available at the destination by a certain moment? This could be used in conjunction with the bundle lifetime to cancel LTPv2 sessions proactively.
     *   APL has reported the following issues related to LTP that we way want to consider in LTPv2
        *   Unspecified behavior that allows a memory leak and provide a method of denial-of-service attack. See https://github.com/nasa/HDTN/issues/19
        *   LTP should guarantee that a reception report is sent when all data is received, not necessarily in response to a checkpoint. See https://github.com/nasa/HDTN/issues/23
        *   LTP should allow the transmit engine to delay sending data segments or reports long enough to receive out-of-order segments that would affect the retransmission behavior. See https://github.com/nasa/HDTN/issues/22 and https://github.com/nasa/HDTN/issues/24.
  *   Others wishes from the community
     *   DTN multicast
     *   Provide mechanisms for in-order delivery, lack of gaps, and lack of duplicates (similar to DTPC, but more modular, any possibly not end-to-end)
     *   Standard CCSDS format for contact plans
     *   DNS-like service to avoid having to manually rely on IANA/SANA registries.
     *   Stream of video/voice via DTN. KPLO used a non-standard version of BSSP and yet SIS-MIA might be working on RTP over DTN.

Thanks,
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Marc Sanchez Net (332H)
Telecommunications Engineer
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Cell: (617) 953-7977<mailto:(617)%20953-7977> | Email: marc.sanchez.net at jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:marc.sanchez.net at jpl.nasa.gov>
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