[Sls-slp] Packet channel multiplexing no longer needed? : Results of Discussion with Takahiro Yamada on Revising SPP Blue Book
Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int
Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int
Wed Jan 31 14:30:32 UTC 2018
John,
I think that Packet channel multiplexing is still needed and
surely implemented by space agencies.
The point is that those implementation are not exposed and I find this
correct.
Let's say that we should keep the same approach we have had in the past;
i.e. SPP book shall mention that Packet channel multiplexing is to be
performed but leaving the implementation to users as loong as there no for
a commen service (either SLS or CSTS).
If you think this is the same that happened with the TC standard and FSP.
The TC Standard mentioned that TC Frames were multiplexed over VCs/MAPs
but gave no definition.
When SLE FSP was done it was realised that the TC Frame multiplexing
required to be defined and in fact you have relevant clauses and an Annex
in FSP.
The same for TM frame, they are multiplexed over a Master Channel and
their multiplexing is mentioned but not defined (specially because that
multiplexing is normally done on board a spacecrat :o).
Regards
Gian Paolo
From: John Pietras <john.pietras at gst.com>
To: "Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int" <Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int>,
"Kazz, Greg J (312B)" <greg.j.kazz at jpl.nasa.gov>
Cc: "sls-slp at mailman.ccsds.org" <sls-slp at mailman.ccsds.org>, SLS-SLP
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Date: 30/01/2018 19:06
Subject: Re: [Sls-slp] Results of Discussion with Takahiro Yamada
on Revising SPP Blue Book
Sent by: "SLS-SLP" <sls-slp-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org>
All,
In an earlier email in this thread, Greg commented that he understood that
many missions multiplex different “packet channels” into the same VC, but
that he did not see this happening in an interoperable way. I think that
Greg has hit on the important factor here – what is exposed in an
interoperable, cross-supported way?
Back when we wrote the original AOS book, we had the notion that “cross
support” users would be able to access individual packet channels via
standard intefaces. This notion was formalized in the Cross Support
Reference Model, Part 1 – Space Link Extension Services Blue Book
(colloquially known as the “SLE Ref Model”), which envisioned two
“flavors” of Forward Space Packet (TC and AOS) and one Return Space Packet
service. Those services would have allowed multiple FSP instances to carry
packete channels all destined for the same VC.
As it turned out, only the TC flavor of the Forward Space Packet service
was ever realized. Different instances of the (TC) FSP service are indeed
capable of carrying different packet channels destined for the same VC.
The FSP service uses MAP, so the necessary packet channel multiplexing
into VCs is accomplished (indirectly) through MAP Multiplexing.
But had the AOS FSP been realized, it *would* have required the packet
channel muxing that currently resides in the SPP. But since it wasn’t
realized, the main use case (that I know of) disappears, and perhaps
packet channel multiplexing is indeed no longer needed at a cross-support
interoperability level, which I agree with Greg is the important factor in
considering whether to retain the specification in the SPP (or migrate it
back into one or more of the SDLP books).
Best regards,
John
From: Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int [mailto:Gian.Paolo.Calzolari at esa.int]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 8:55 AM
To: Kazz, Greg J (312B)
Cc: John Pietras; sls-slp at mailman.ccsds.org; SLS-SLP
Subject: Re: [Sls-slp] Results of Discussion with Takahiro Yamada on
Revising SPP Blue Book
Greg,
what we have to be sure it captured in our CCSDS books is the
following situation (e.g. for a TM/AOS link)
There multiple sources generating packet contents and asking creation of
packets
Those packets are created with different APIDs depending on the source
Those different APIDs shall be multiplexed to produce a single packet
stream:
This single packet stream is then injected in in a VC
It is then correct that "The current AOS SDLP version i.e., CCSDS
732.0-B-3 Sept 2015 is agnostic about “packet channels” and “Individual
CCSDS packets from multiple sources” (implying multiple APIDs). It is
really only concerned about multiplexing of packets with different PVNs
onto VCs." In fact AOS would only see that single stream.
All the rest shall be done above the SDLP.
We shall check also what we lost with respect to CCSDS 103.0-B-2 (now
silver) where there was a nice picture for which I attach a detail.
Another document to be checked for losses is CCSDS 203.0-B-2 and even FSP
that mention APID multiplexing if I remember well.
Finally we shall verify all fits within the encapsulation service.
Ciao
Gian Paolo
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