[Sls-slp] Re: [Sls-sea-dls] Re: Comments on lastest draft version of TC and AOS Space Data Link Protocols with SDLS
Kazz, Greg J (313B)
greg.j.kazz at jpl.nasa.gov
Mon Jul 1 18:12:32 UTC 2013
Dear Gilles,
I concur with your editorial comments and I have made these changes.
Please see the following three files in a new SLS WG directory on the CWE
below:
http://tinyurl.com/mcmevgr
All three files have the date "July01" in the file name.
Best regards,
Greg
CCSDS SLP WG Chairman
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Greg Kazz
EEISE Group Supervisor
Systems Engineering Section (Section 313)
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
4800 Oak Grove Drive, Pasadena CA 91109
MS 301-490
(818) 393-6529 (office)
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On 6/28/13 10:41 AM, "Moury Gilles" <Gilles.Moury at cnes.fr> wrote:
>Dear Greg,
>
>I have a few editorial comments to those 3 books. I hope it is still
>possible to integrate them :
>
>TM space Data Link Protocol :
>
>2.1.2.2 : in the NOTE, we should remove "Security" in "TM Space Data Link
>Security Protocol" otherwise the NOTE does not make sense
>
>3.3.2.6 : I recommend changing the title of the section from "Status
>Code" to "Verification Status Code" for consistency with [8]
>
>6.3.1 : I recommend replacing "TM" by "TM Space Data Link Protocol" (2
>instances) because "TM" alone is quite ambiguous
>
>
>AOS Space Data Link Protocol :
>
>2.1.2.2 : in the NOTE, remove "Security" in "AOS Space Data Link Security
>Protocol"
>
>3.4.2.5 : change title to "Verification Status Code" for consistency with
>[8]
>
>6.3.1 : replace "AOS" by "AOS Space Data Link Protocol" because "AOS"
>alone is ambiguous
>
>
>TC Space Data Link Protocol :
>
>2.1.2.3 : replace "...that apply to an TC Space Data Link Security
>Protocol ..." by "...that apply to a TC Space Data Link Protocol ..."
>
>================ end of editorial comments =========
>
>
>We in SDLS WG have to perform a final check on the last version of SDLS
>red book (i.e. the red-3 version that we redlined during our april
>meeting) so we can initiate the agency review simultaneously with the SLP
>books. I will circulate this redlined version to the SDLS WG for final
>validation and further transmission to Tom Gannett for agency review in
>the same package as SLP books.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Gilles
>
>Gilles MOURY
>CNES Toulouse
>-----Message d'origine-----
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>[mailto:sls-sea-dls-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org] De la part de Kazz, Greg J
>(313B)
>Envoyé : mercredi 26 juin 2013 21:01
>À : Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez at esa.int; sls-slp at mailman.ccsds.org; CCSDS
>Rapporteur
>Cc : sls-sea-dls at mailman.ccsds.org; marjorie at delandelong.com
>Objet : [Sls-sea-dls] Re: Comments on lastest draft version of TC and AOS
>Space Data Link Protocols with SDLS
>
>Dear SLP and SDLS WGS:
>
>I have accepted the comments below from Ignacio and Marjorie and have made
>the changes to TM, TC, and AOS Space Data Link Protocols.
>
>The final versions (file names all ending in "final3") are now on the SLP
>CWE under this tiny URL:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/qdgws7m
>
>At this point, based upon the agreement both SLP and SDSL WG have, I
>recommend that the CCSDS Secretariat take these files and compose Pink
>Sheets for Agency Review to occur before the Fall 2013 in San Antonio, TX,
>USA.
>
>The files with the history of changes (red lines) can be found in this CWE
>directory with file names ending in ("with edits" or "with comments"):
>
>http://tinyurl.com/qe92pv5
>
>
>Best regards,
>
>Greg
>Chairman SLS-SLP WG
>
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------
>Greg Kazz
>EEISE Group Supervisor
>Systems Engineering Section (Section 313)
>Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>4800 Oak Grove Drive, Pasadena CA 91109
>MS 301-490
>(818) 393-6529 (office)
>
>------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>On 6/26/13 5:52 AM, "Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez at esa.int"
><Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez at esa.int> wrote:
>
>>Dear Greg,
>>
>>Please forward this e-mail to SLP distribution list.
>>
>>Finally I have had a chance to look at the 6 files you posted in CWE (see
>>below).
>>
>>Marjorie had already look at them and identified the following minor
>>editorial to which I concur. I quote her input:
>>
>>"My only comment is on the TC draft (with filename ending "Final2.doc"),
>>and it concerns the Note at the end of section 6.4.2. The Note describes
>>the checks performed by the All Frames Reception Function.
>>
>>The last two sentences of the Note say:
>>"It is recommended that a frame that fails any of these checks is
>>discarded. In particular, processing of frames failing verification is
>>implementation specific and depends also on the processing capabilities
>>of the service user for eventual forensic investigation."
>>
>>These two sentences should be replaced by a single sentence saying:
>>"A frame that fails any of these checks is discarded."
>>
>>- Discarding a failed frame is the behaviour specified for the check
>>procedures inside the All Frames Reception Function. So it is not just
>>"recommended".
>>
>>- The Note is not about the frame verification (i.e. SDLS checks of the
>>frame). So the sentence about "frames failing verification" is not
>>appropriate in this Note. (And the paragraph immediately before the Note
>>describes what happens when SDLS detects an error in a frame.)
>>
>>I know we (and Greg) dealt with a similar note in the AOS book, but this
>>one still needs changing!"
>>
>>In addition I have found a minor editorial inconsistency on the way
>>reference
>>[8], which is the future SDLS Blue Book, is written down in TC, TM and
>>AOS.
>>In TM and AOS it says "November 2012". In TC it says "To be issued".
>>I think the latter is the correct approach (not sure we can refer to Red
>>Books instead!) but Tom should confirm.
>>
>>Kind regards,
>>
>>Ignacio & Marjorie
>>
>>
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>>Dear Ignacio,
>>
>>Thanks for your and Marjorie's comments on the AOS Space Data Link
>>Protocol concerning SDLS. I agreed with your comments and I have accepted
>>them into the document. I have also resolved the open issues that
>>Marjorie
>>pointed out concerning the equivalent for the term, FDU in AOS as well as
>>referencing the correct procedures in AOS.
>>
>>I invite everyone to take a look at the following documents that I have
>>posted today to the CWE under the SLP WG.
>>
>>http://tiny.cc/zfbhyw
>>
>>This directory now contains 6 files. For each TM, AOS, TC there is a file
>>with both the review comments and red lines turned on. There is also a
>>so-called "final" or clean file for each of them, without any remarks,
>>with comments accepted.
>>
>>I have updated TM based upon the agreed to updates and comments for AOS
>>and checked the section reference numbers for correctness, since TM and
>>AOS contain to some extent different services.
>>
>>I request that both SLP and SDLS review these documents by June 26, so
>>that I can send the to Tom Gannett in order for him to produce pink
>>sheets
>>for agency review in time before the Fall 2013 meeting.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>
>>Greg
>>
>>
>>------------------------------------------------------
>>Greg Kazz
>>EEISE Group Supervisor
>>Systems Engineering Section (Section 313)
>>Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>>4800 Oak Grove Drive, Pasadena CA 91109
>>MS 301-490
>>(818) 393-6529 (office)
>>
>>------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On 6/4/13 11:07 PM, "Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez at esa.int"
>><Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez at esa.int> wrote:
>>
>>>Dear Greg,
>>>
>>>Please forward this e-mail as well to the SLP distribution list.
>>>
>>>Following previous response to your e-mail below, Marjorie and I have
>>>both
>>>reviewed and discussed our findings on the AOS update.
>>>Please find enclosed our amendments.
>>>
>>>Kind regards,
>>>
>>>Ignacio
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>(See attached file: AOS Space Data Link
>>>Protocol_732x0p21_June04_2013M2.docx)
>>>
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>>>Dear All,
>>>
>>>I have responded to the edits and comments of both Marjorie and Ignazio
>>>based
>>>upon their latest edits to the TC Space Data Link Protocol with SDLS.
>>>
>>>Please see the following URL that contains proposed changes to both TC
>>>and
>>>AOS. (TM will follow essentially the same types of changes as AOS, so
>>>after
>>>we have consensus, I will modify TM.)
>>>
>>>http://tinyurl.com/mo6m5sl
>>>
>>>
>>>Your Figure 6-c Marjorie in the TC book is quite innovative. You have
>>>also
>>>clearly identified all the processes and functions involved in the TC
>>>SDLS
>>>case. Under the Notes in Section 6.3.7, I had to change the reference to
>>>6.3.2 since the order of processing for SDLS does not follow Section
>>>4.3.5
>>>(which was correctly called out in the text of 6.3.2).
>>>
>>>I decided not to include any figure such as 6c in the AOS book, simply
>>>because the COP-1 is not an issue for AOS and we are only dealing with
>>>the
>>>order of processing of the AOS functions and SDLS, which I believe is
>>>handled
>>>easily with text. I added a section "Error Reporting" to discuss the
>>>verification issues in lieu of the order of processing discussion in TC.
>>>
>>>For both documents in Section 6.4.2, I softened the text to say that the
>>>Virtual Channel Reception Fct will not deliver (in lieu of discard ) the
>>>frame if SDLS reports an error. In my mind, I want to prohibit the
>>>function
>>>from delivering the frame to the user, but not prohibit the capability
>>>for
>>>future forensic analysis by a select group of analysts. I think this
>>>best
>>>adresses Ignazio's concerns and questions. (Change also added to AOS).
>>>
>>>Please let me know if the text for both TC and AOS is now consistent and
>>>acceptable. If so, I will procede to make the changes to TM as well.
>>>
>>>Best regards,
>>>
>>>Greg
>>>Chairman SLS-SLP WG
>>>------------------------------------------------------
>>>Greg Kazz
>>>EEISE Group Supervisor
>>>Systems Engineering Section (Section 313)
>>>Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>>>4800 Oak Grove Drive, Pasadena CA 91109
>>>MS 301-490
>>>(818) 393-6529 (office)
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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