[Sls-sea-dls] Key Verification using CRC

Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez at esa.int Ignacio.Aguilar.Sanchez at esa.int
Tue Apr 19 09:31:21 UTC 2016


Following Daniel's and Craig's e-mails, I agree with Bruno's proposal.

Kind regards,

Ignacio


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Ignacio Aguilar Sánchez
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From:       "Moury Gilles" <Gilles.Moury at cnes.fr>
To:         "Weiss, Howard" <Howard.Weiss at parsons.com>, "Saba Bruno"
            <Bruno.Saba at cnes.fr>, "Daniel.Fischer at esa.int"
            <Daniel.Fischer at esa.int>, "sls-sea-dls at mailman.ccsds.org"
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Date:       19/04/2016 10:47
Subject:    RE: [Sls-sea-dls] Key Verification using CRC
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Shall we adopt Bruno’s proposal ? In that case, we probably do not need the
challenge-response transaction.

Gilles

Gilles MOURY
CNES Toulouse
De : sls-sea-dls-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org [
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Envoyé : lundi 18 avril 2016 19:27
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Objet : RE: [Sls-sea-dls] Key Verification using CRC

I agree with Bruno.

Howie



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[sls-sea-dls-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org] on behalf of Saba Bruno
[Bruno.Saba at cnes.fr]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 9:48 AM
To: Daniel.Fischer at esa.int; sls-sea-dls at mailman.ccsds.org
Subject: RE: [Sls-sea-dls] Key Verification using CRC
Dear all,

One solution to avoid the use of a challenge-response system and stay with
the simple CRC for on-board key checking is to compute the CRC on BOTH the
Key-ID and the key itself.

Ideally, what we know as a “key” would be a “Meta-Key”, comprising :

      -          The Key ID, unique identifier of the key for the whole
      mission duration,
      -          The Key itself (secret random data)
      -          The CRC, computed on the Key ID and the key itself.

This “Meta-Key” should be considered as an single entity, not splittable,
being stored, transferred and distributed as is (on-board AND at ground
level, from generation to destruction).

Cheers,


Bruno Saba
CNES
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De : sls-sea-dls-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org [
mailto:sls-sea-dls-bounces at mailman.ccsds.org] De la part de
Daniel.Fischer at esa.int
Envoyé : dimanche 17 avril 2016 13:13
À : sls-sea-dls at mailman.ccsds.org
Objet : [Sls-sea-dls] Key Verification using CRC

Dear all,

I was discussing our new approach to key verification using the
onboard-stored CRCs with David,

He came up with a keen observation.

The CRC-based key verification is somewhat weaker than one based on a
challenge-response. The reason is that the CRC ensues you that the key at a
certain slot is still OK in terms of integrity. In contrast to the
challenge-response approach it DOES NOT tell you that the key is the same as
the key with same key ID on ground.

Is this an issue for us? What do you think? The only way we have to check key
synchronisation is to use a key for actual traffic protection and see if it
works.

What do you think?

Cheers
Daniel




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